Third party Purchase order processing

Dear Experts,
In one of our business scenario we are purchasing materials from vendor and directly supplied it to customer,physical goods receipt is not done at our location,for third party account assignment in mandatory.
I have given account assignment as sales order ( C ) and in item category I have mention(THIRD PARTY- S ).
When I go for Invoice posting I am getting error ie.Enter GL Account
Please advice how to resolve this issue.Also mention what setting are needed for Third party order processing against account assignment as sales order.
Thanks

Hi
If you are doing third party order processing,
While creating the Sales order, it will create a purchase requisition in the back end. ( For thid in sales order line item, item category should be TAS)
While converting the PR to PO( all the account assingment would be copied).
Check the line tem of PR or PO - Account assignment Tab - G/L account and Sales order no).
I beleive it will automatically pick the sales order no and account assignment( G/L account) for the line item while creating PR.
Check it out.
Regards,
Raman

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Come here and discuss the business process of Third Party Purchase Order?

come here and discuss the business process of Third Party Purchase Order?
when this po is used and the following process is what?

Hi YuLin
It is a vague topic..anyways i will tell you one important scenario of the 3rd party order :Third Party Without Shipping Notification(its imp one)
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you.
In this scenario, the vendor does not send a shipping notification. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document is only possible after entering the invoice from the vendor
Function List
The following functions are provided to support the Third Party Without Shipping Notification (J55) building block:
When the order is created, the specification of material numbers, quantity and conditions takes place at item level. As the material is not available on stock, a purchase requisition is created directly within the sales order.
Purchase Order Processing
The purchase requisition can already be automatically assigned during creation. If not, it is possible to assign the purchase requisition manually. The purchase order is created with reference to the purchase requisition. The quantity and the material are transferred from the sales order. The purchase order price can now also be determined using condition records.
Vendor Invoice Verification
The vendor invoice verification must take place before customer billing. The quantity of the invoice updates the quantity to be invoiced in the sales order.
Billing Documents
The billing documents are carried out on the basis of the order. Since the vendor might not deliver the exact quantity ordered, quantity adjustment takes place through the quantity in the vendor's invoice.
Controlling
The revenue and costs will be posted to CO-PA via the billing document
Key Points
As no shipping notification is available, the customer invoice can only be created after having finished vendor invoice verification.
Normal process you can refer in help.sap.com under this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/4d/2b91d843ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
regards
Yogesh

In Third Party sales order processing how we come to know that the customer

Hi SAP SD Gurus,
In Third Party sales order processing how we come to know that the customer is recived the Goods from the vendor?
Thanks & Regards,
Sreenivas.P

From a high level view, the behavior should work like this:
- Sales order placed from customer PO via Tcode VA01. Purchase Requisition created upon saving the order
- Purchase order created with reference to Purchase Requisition via Tcode ME21N
- Receive confirmation from vendor that goods have shipped via EDI
- Create invoice receipt to vendor via Tcode MIRO
- Create billing document to bill customer via VF01

Third party sales Order processing

Hi gurus,
During Third party sales order processing, Purchase requision has been generated with account assignemnt category 'X',
While converting the Purchase requisition to Purchase order the system is not allowing me to save the purchase order,
As soon as i hit the save button the Pricing conditions are being deleted in purchase order ?
When i hit the save button again System is throwing me out giving a message
System error (error in method PO_CHECK)
Message no. ME816
This is happening only when a purchase order is being created for third party sales order processing.
Has any one faced this issue before, if yes please advise gurus,
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
Gopio.

Hi
The account assignment category X has been maintained in
schedule line category CS and it is recommended by SAP
Yes perfectly right
SAP recommends only X as account assignment category for CS
If the PR is created successfully then there is no problem with related to SD configurations
The error message is more of an MM error
You need to check with an MM expert why that happens while creating PO from PR
I feel since this happns while saving the transaction there might be some userexit used which may be root cause
System error (error in method PO_CHECK)
Message no. ME816
As per my knowledge this is not a standard error
Because of activation of some userexit this is triggered
Functionally this is a MM area error
From SD side everything is correct
Regards
Raja

How can i get different Condition Type for third-party Purchase Order?

Hi, experts,
for standard PO my Schema works well. now I want to get a different condition type for third-party purchase order. I try to extend field catalog (Pricing Purchasing). The Field PSTYP exists already. However, it is not provided in the field catalog.
How could i do?
Thanks
Rene

Hi Rene,
If you are seeing fields in the field catalog but are not seeing this field when creating the condition table then the field probably does not exist in the KOMG structure for allowed fields for condition structures. KOMG represents the total of KOMK and KOMP which are the pricing communication structures. If your field is not there then you need to append it to item data in INCLUDE KOMPAZ in KOMP since this is an item level field. If it were a header level field you would append it to include KOMKAZ in KOMK. The inclusion of new fields in KOMK or KOMP automatically means that they are also included in KOMG.
After doing this you will see the field when creating a table. There is further documentation on this process in the IMG under SPRO-> Materials Management-> Purchasing-> Conditions-> Define Price determination Process -> System Enhancements - View the documentation associated to this node in the IMG
Hope this helps,
Matt

In third party sales order process how business come to know that the vend

Hi SD Gurus,
In third party sales order process how business come to know that the vendor has delivery the goods to the customer?
Where Business will check whether Vendor has delivered the goods or not to the customer?
Thanks & Regards,
Nivas

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
Kapil

Individual 3RD Party Purchase Order Process Bisiness logic ?

Dear sd experts
i know I.P.O ( Individual 3RD Party Purchase Order Process)
But tell me Business process why Vendor will send stock to Company ( After Loading The stock ) Again company will receive The stock ( Unloading )
Again Company will send to customer ( Loading here )
So please tell me The business logic , my doubt Vendor will send stock Directly With out Transport charges & Loading charges
it is Doing like this Profit to all ( Vendor ,customer ,& Company also)
Please tell Me the exact business logic
Thanks a lot

Hi Kaustubh
The answer lies in how the sales order is closed and invoice is printed when the GR is done.
Please check if it is possible to update the invoice with the information you want to be printed on the Export doc and Packing slip.If this can be acheived then you print the information out of the invoice without using the delivery.
Hope this helps.
Thanks

Third-Party Purchase Orders

When not performing a goods receipt on third-party purchase orders, how does the PO get closed? We currently issue third-party POs, the goods ordered are delivered to our customer and the vendor invoices us. When the vendor invoice is entered, the customer is invoiced. But I'm finding that the purchase order we issued is never being closed/completed.

Hi Wanda,
Please ensure the PO, whether GR based IV indicator has been set or not. If set then you have to do GR & then IV. Else you can do the direct IV but in that case GR based indicator should not be set only IR.
Result of GR-
1. No stock update is made, as the goods receipt is posted to consumption
2.The value of the purchase order is posted to a GR/IR clearing account for the purposes of Invoice Verification.
3. The goods receipt can be tracked in the PO history.
This will serve your problem of closing/completing the PO.
For your info....
If the customer is to be billed in Sales and Distribution based on the invoice quantity specified in the vendor invoice, this quantity is used as the basis for the billing document in Sales and Distribution. The billing document can only be posted once the vendor invoice has been posted.
Thanx!!

Account Postings in Third Party Purchase Orders

Hi All
Please explain the Accounting Docs generation in Third Party
Purchase Orders in the following scenerios.
1. Purchase Order created against Sales Order and goods to be delivered to Customer.
2. Goods to be To be delivered to another vendor
3. Goods to be delivered to the another address(diferent from plant address).
Thanks ,
Tausif

Hi,
For 1. Previous answer is correct.
For 2. Goods to be To be delivered to another vendor
So vendor become customer, so the postings as in Case .1
(I think you the diff.between vendor & customer).
For 3. Goods to be delivered to the another address(diferent from plant address).
Whatever the address, the FI documents generated are same, The bill/Invoice from the Company send to the Billing address as mentioned by customer.
I think you get clear idea.
Regards

Third-party back order process

Hi,
We created a third party sales order which in turn created the purchase requisition. The requisition is converted to PO and received a partial quantity.
But when I ran the back order processing transactions V_RA or CO06 the sales order is not appearing in any of these reports.
We are unable to activate the "Req/ Assembly" flag in the schedule line item category. Is there any way we can show the backorders for third-paty.
Thanks,
Srini

I think that the Third-party process is like a make-to-order process, so you cannot assign/remove availability because it is strictly related to the purchase order created from the sales order.
All you can do is a availability check (even with tcode V_V2) to syncronize the dates maintained in the puchase order back to the schedule lines in the sales orders.
Regards
Roberto Mazzali

Explain third party sales order process

third party sales order in real time with real time scenarios how it integrates with other modules

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
Kapil

Invoice entry - Third party sales order processing

The process is below:
- Trading Company A, enters a sales order at its system.
- Production Company B, makes the delivery to the customer.
- An invoice with respect to the delivery is created from Company A to the cıstomer and another invoice is created from Company B to Company A.
The revenues are posted to the related accounts at both companies. Do we have to enter incoming invoice for the purchase activity to be posted at the related accounts at Company A (trading company) or is creating an invoice from company B to A enough?

- Production Company B, makes the delivery to the customer.
- An invoice with respect to the delivery is created from Company A
Comp A will not issue the goods, so you can not create invoice wrt: delivery, It should be wrt: Order.
Once MIRO is done in Comp A: ( which is sent by Comp B against the delivered goods), then only you can create invoice wrt:SO, which is controlled in billing relevance - F Order related billing status according to Invoice (MIRO) quantity.
Go through the threads: Third party order processing in the forum , will help you alot.

Third-party Purchase Order with Item Cat. : S

Hi,
I want to know about third party Po ? is there any customization required for this type of PO, what are the cases wehe we can use the Third party PO what is main difference between Normal PO and Po with Thiedt part Item category.
regards,
zafar

Dear,
You dont need to have any specific config only need to mainatin in Material Master view for ITEM CATEGORY GROUP sa BANC, which will propose ITEM CATEGORY in Sales Order as TAS,which automatically generate a Purchse No. and against this purchase requsition u will create P.O. and will do MIRO and after MIRO u can bill this to customer and it will be ORDER RELATED BILLING as in Third party once u raise the P.O. the vendor deliver goods directly to ur Customer against P.O..
Futher need clarification revert back to me.
Regards
AJIT K SINGH
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Third Party purchase order with provision of component supply

Hi
We need to create a Third party PO so that we can do statistical GR.
( Part is shiped directly by vendor to customer)
But we need to supply component to vendor, and vendor after processing ships to Customer.
How we can replicate the same.
I though we can create new Item category, but that also seems to be not feasible.
Any idea to address the requirement will be helpful

Hi,
First of all SAP doesn't provide facility of creating new Item Category.
As per your requirement, you are asking about Third-Party and Subcontracting combined. You cannot use both functionalities together, because SAP puts both into the item category (quite a big lack of functionality in SAP).
Since subcontracting is more complex (automatic background postings), you should use item category for subcontracting and manually (or user exit) change the delivery address to that of the customer so that the vendor physically ships direct to the customer. Technically in SAP you need to post normal GR plus delivery and GI to the customer as if it would go through your warehouse.
But as a work around, you can try out with following Process Flow;
1. VA01 - Create Sales order for material F1 and Customer C1
2. As a result of this a Subcontracting PR will get generated automatically. (For this take help of SD Consultant, it is controlled by Schedule Line category in VOV6, take copy of CS and change Item category to 3 i.e. Subcontracting)
3. ME21N - Subcontracting PO w.r.t. PR (Considering BOM is in place). In PO under "Delivery Address" Tab, maintain the Customer Code as C1. As a result of this, vendor will get information that stock is to be dispatched to Customer C1.
4. MB1B - Transfer Posting of raw materials via 541
5. J1IF01 - Create Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. TP mat. doc.
6. MIGO - GR w.r.t. PO (Here it will update stock of the material F1 via 101 and auto consumption of components via 543 O). Refer Subcontracting Challan.
7. J1IFQ - Challan Reconciliation
8. J1IF13 - Challan COmpletion
9. MIRO - LIV w.r.t. Subcontracting PO
10. VL01N - Create Delivery w.r.t. Sales Order to write-off the stock of material F1
11. VF01 - Create Billing Document on Customer C1
12. J1IIN - Outgoing Excise Invoice (I think, it is not required)

Third Party Purchase order

Hello Guru's,
Heres my scenario,
I have a BOM with components A,B,C and C is a subassemly which has a component D,
and C is purchased from a vendor X and D is Purchased from a vendor Y.
So when I create a Purchase order for D to the vendor Y,the vendor Y should send the material to the vendor X and this vendor X will now make the subassembly C using the material D.and send it to my plant.
Also vendor Y should bill me for the material and not the vendor X,
Also the goods reciept for the material D should be done at me and not at the Vendor X,
The Physical inventory for D should be maintained at the vendor X and the GR posting should be done by me
Please suggest how do i do the Third party order in this scenario.
Regs
Dardo

Hai,
      Here u r Purchasing material D from vendor Y means u need to create a PO aganist this vendor and u need to do GR to ur unristricted stock.
      Then create a PO for subcontracting to vendor X for material C. Issue material D to this Subcontracting PO with Mvt Type 541.
       For Billing also there is no problem u can settle the bill to Y for his supplies and U can settle Bill for X for his Subcontracting charges.
Ok any quries come back.
Bye

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