Third party sale - Realtime configuration experience

Could you share your experience in connection with Third party sale configuration during realtime?
In other words, for 3rd party sale configuration -
1) Did you (SD consultant) configure it in SAP together with a MM consultant?
2) What tasks / areas did you cover and what did the MM consultant cover?
3) The prices to pay to the third party by the company (your client), who configured it (you or MM consultant)?
4) Any other realtime issues, learnings in connection with third party configuration process?
Please note - I am not asking for the "technical" steps (e.g. BANS, TAS, CS, Purchase org., ME11, ME01 etc.)
Many thanks, in advance!

1) Did you (SD consultant) configure it in SAP together with a MM consultant?
Yes. It has to be configured with help / co-operation from MM side.
2) What tasks / areas did you cover and what did the MM consultant cover?
SD Consultant - All SD related config like Sales Doc type, item Category (most important Billing relevance), Schedule Line Category (activaton of creation of PR), Copy Control between Order & Invoice & Procing Procedure.
3) The prices to pay to the third party by the company (your client), who configured it (you or MM consultant)?
You mean for payment to Vendor - it is purely MM Configuration right from Creation of PO from PR, Statistical MIGO (if Required) & MIRO (Purchase Invoice).
4) Any other realtime issues, learnings in connection with third party configuration process?
My most important learning was Billing Relevance settting in SD Item Cateogry. (I mean you can control in SD, whether the Sales Invoice is to be created on basis on Statistical MIGO or MIRO)...
The above question & answers are too generic. Kindly let us know any specific qiestions you have.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

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Cannot do MIGO in Third Party Sales Process with shipping notification

In the Third party sales process with Shipping notification,the item category for the material is TAS (Billing relevance=R),item category group is BANS.
Intially sales order is created,then using me21n with reference to purchase requisation purchase order is created,then in MIGO stage i used the PO No there but i get the message no item found in PO.
what adjustment have to be done in order to do MIGO

Refer following SDN thread, by that you will be able to get overview on best practices about Third Party Sales & necessary configuration you need to follow for statistical GR:
- Third party direct shipment (II)
Further maintain Billing Relevance for Item Category as G - Order-related billing of the delivery quantity.
Regards
JP

Excise configuration in case of Third party sales

In case of third party sales of a excisable material, where the goods are supplied directly to customer by the vendor.
However the customer invoice is sent to the customer my organization
How will the excise entries take place?
Because in this case goods are not supplied from my depot, Also i need to charge the customer for excise, since the goods are excisable.
Can I claim the excise benefit for the above sale process?
Please revert
Regards
Sudhir Chavan

As the goods are not delivered from your factory premise and are delivered for vendor.
Means in system there is no outward goods movement from your plant.
So, logically you should not create Excise invoice for this.
But, you may need to consider VAT/CST based on the sales.
And that doesn't require any excise invoice.
Thus, no requirement of Excise configuration in case of Third party sales.
Yes, from procurement point of view, you would be paying excise to the vendor for this purchase.
Regards
JP

How to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me detail

dear expert
how to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me details. waiting your valuable reply
vicky

you can find the details in the below links
Re: THird party sales complete scenario
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/PROCEDURETOCREATETHIRDPARTY+SALES
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm
Regards

Credit management configuration in Third party sales

Dear All,
Please let me know , what are the configuration setting for Credit Management in Third Party Sales.
Regards
SKumar

Hi...
For Third Party, since there is no Delivery and PGI, the block can be at Billing.
however the total outstanding value from the customer at the time of billing along with the days as set in the credit limit shall be basis of blocking.
Config Steps:
u2022     Assigned the credit control area to the company code
Financial Accounting (New)  Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable  Credit management  Credit Control Account  Assign Permitted Credit Control Area to Company Code
u2022     Assign Sale Document and Delivery Document, The credit limit check for the selected sales document type is set to automatic control.
Sales and Distribution  Basic Functions  Credit management / Risk management Credit Management Assign Sales Documents and Delivery Document  Credit limit check for order types
u2022     Assigning Risk Category to Credit Control Area
Financial Accounting (New)  Accounts Receivable and Account Payable  Credit management  Credit Control Account  Define Risk Categories
u2022     Defining Automatic Credit Control
Financial Supply Chain Management  Credit Management  Integration with Accounts Receivable Accounting and Sales and Distribution  Integration with Sales and Distribution Define Automatic Credit Control

Third party sales configuration

Dear
I needed your guidance for third party sales when vendor supply the material to the customer we keep item category group BANS and stock entered virtually in our stock and then vendor invoice generated and received by the company through MIGO and MIRO.
My question is that when vendor supply to the company and company supply to the client or other wise I can say our item category is HAWA in that case what will be process can you elaborate the process and configuration of the scenario.
Thanks
Riti

Hi Riti,
Just adding to Kapil's input,
hope below input will helpyou
An Example Of Third Party Sales
Scenario:
2 companies are created in system - India & Singapore Customer places sales order for particular material on Singapore. Singapore is not able to produce the same. They pass on the order to India for processing. After processing India ships the material directly to the customer along with necessary documentation. Invoice copy is passed on to Singapore. Final Commercial Invoice will be raised by Singapore. How can the above scenario handled?
By: Balaji
You can do this using third party sales.
The third party sales process is as under.
1) Singapore company creates an order for the singapore customer.
2) Because of the configuration settings of the sales document type, item category & schedule line category, as soon as the order is saved a PR (purchase requisition) is automatically generated. This is converted into PO (purchase order) and sent to the Indian company.
3) Indian company supplies the material directly to the Singapore customer.
4) Indian company sends the invoice to the Singapore Company.
5) Singapore company does the invoice verification in MM using tcode MIRO.
6) Singapore company raises the invoice to the singapore customer.
In standard SAP, item category TAS is used for this. The schedule line category is CS. Here you can see a field 'order type' with value 'NB'. This triggers the automatic creation of the PR.
Plus in the material master also you need to do certain settings.
1) If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS. The procurement type should be marked as external procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
2) If you are not always allowing third party order processing then you can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as (X) meaning both types of procurement (in house manufacturing and external procurement).
In the item category the billing relevance should be 'F'.
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1)
After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always followwing a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procument type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurment ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to confugure the item category determination
ord type + item cat grp + usge + Hiv level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN . + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevnat for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line cateogry for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requision order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requiesion.
Regads Siva

How to configure a new third party sales document type?

Hi SAP SD gurus,
I am new to the SAP world, I need your help in configuring a new third party sales document type for a site.
There are existing third party document types being used in the region, but the client wants an entirely new third party document type that is activated for CREDIT MANAGEMENT.
I just need your inputs, as how to go about it. If I copy from an existing third party sales doc. What additional steps do I need to follow? Like Item category config, copy control settings, and credit management.
Is there a need to create new billing types?
Also as per process, by creating a new document type, how will it affect the logistic processes, if any?
Thanks a lot in advance for your valuable inputs.

Hello,
You can create new document type under following customization path
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Define Sales Document Types
Now create new document type by copying the standard document type OR
Now go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Define Item Categories
which is already defined for third party sales (TAS)
Now assign this iteme category to your new document type
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Assign Item Categories
Assignment needs to be done in combination of sales document type and item category group (BANS)
Now
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Schedule Lines
Assignment of schedule line is already done as you are using the standard one.
Lastly, you may need to maintain copy control for your newly created sales document type for this go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Maintain Copy Control for Sales Documents
(Copying Control: Sales Document to Sales Document)
Here you can define copy control requirements.
BR,
Tushar

How will i configure third party sales order

pls tell me how will i configure for third party sales order

dear,
prasanta,
the configuration of third party sales order is given below
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
i think it will fulfill your requirement if so plz reward point.
ambarish

Configuration for Third Party Sales Order

Hi All,
I would need some advise on how should I go about to configure a third party sales order. The MM consultant has configured a special item category for it but the sales order has some incompletion data error where the schedule line could not be maintained.
Kindly advise.
Thanks

Hi Lee,
Pls go through the following links below:
[Third party sales order|http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sd/third-party-order-processing.htm]
[configuration for Third party sales order|http://www.saptechies.com/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales/]
Hope these helps you.
Regards,
Krishna.

EDI Basic configuration settings for Third party sales

Dear All,
Could you help step by step how to configure EDI to send PO automatically to outsourcing company for the Third party sales order.
Thanks
CG Balaji

Hi roberto
Please send me basic EDI configuration document to my mail id [email protected] this will help me a lot.
Thanks and regards,
CG Balaji

Return process in Third Party Sales

Hi ppl need some help,
In Third party Sales what happens if certain goods supplied by the Vendor to the customer are 'Defective' & are to be returned by the customer.
Does the customer return it to the Company to which he placed the order or he returns it to the Vendor.
How can we configure this process in SAP to settle the billing & issue the credit memo to the customer?
Shilpi

Hi Shilpi,
third party Return process you can configure like this,
Take return goods from ur customer, Your customer will return goods to you and not to vendor, remember one thing ur cutomer doesnt know who is vendor.
Create CR with refeerence to RE. Because RE will contain that Product and quantity which you ar getting back from the Customer and that you have invoiced the customer.
E.G. If you Sent 2 Quantiy of Materail XYZ at 50 Rs each to the customer, but you Got invoice from ur vendor at 40 Rs Each.
and if customer retuirn 1 quantity u have to return him 50 Rs and not 40 Rs.
So Create CR with respect to RE.
Hope this will help.
Revert back if u need any further help.
Thanks,
Raja

PO Creation for third party sales

Hi
We have the scenario Third party sales and High sea sales which is already in use (already configured) , where PR getting generated automatically .
But client requirement is they want the PO to generate automatically by the system the moment i save the sales order .
Where is the setting in the SAP , where system will generate the PO automatically instead of PR
Please suggest

Hi,
Go to VOV7
Select third party item category which u r using in sales order >>> Deatils >>> under transaction flow >>> Tickmark to CREATE PO AUTOMATIC.
If you activate this field, the system automatically generates both a purchase order requisition for third-party schedule lines as well as a purchase order in the background when you save the sales order.
However u can not create PO directly.
Kapil

Text on Third Party Sales Order to PO

We have a thrid party sales order that creates a purchase requistion then PO. If line item text is added at time of order creation it will transfer to the purchase requistion then the PO. However if you add line item text when changing the sales order, it does not get transferred to the PO. We have determined that this can not be configured after reviewing with SAP.
One of the recommedations was to use: user exit EXIT_SAPMM06E and BAdi ME_PROCESS_PO_CUST
This does not appear to work because it is invoked on the PO and not the sales order.
We have tried a different approach by looking at user exits on the sales orders like: V45E0001, but itt does not appear to be accessed when we look at it in debug.
Does, any one have further suggestions. Should be looking at user exits on the purchase requisiton. Has anyone had this issue before.
Thanks in advance,
Mark

When you change the text in a third party sales order, the text will be transported to the Purchase Requisition. This updates in the Purchase Requisition because third party Purchase Requisitions are changeable by the sales order. However, this does not apply to the Purchase order.
Hope this helps.
Gerard

Third Party Sales Returns process

Hello All
We have a third-party sales process which is automated i.e Sales order and Purchase requisitions(VA01) are created using the data coming in the incoming EDI file, the Purchase requisition is automatically converted to a Purchase order, the Invoice Reciept(MIRO) is posted and the Sales Invoice (VF01) is posted.
The question is how do we handle the Returns or the Credit process?
Is there a way I can configure the system to create a Returns order which will also update the Pur.Req quantity then the Purchase order quantity or directly the Purchase order quantity. I can then use this information to raise a credit to the Vendor Invoice.
I don't want to just raise a credit memo and update the sales side and leave the purchase side open.
I appreciate your reply.
Best Regards
Rama

Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Third party sales order type

Dear Guru's,
I am configuring third party for the first time.
Gone through the search.
The order type NB is missing in my standard list of sales documents. Item cat TAS & sch line cat CS is there.
Pl suggest how do I go ahead to complete configuration?
Thanks & Regards,
santosh.

Hi
You can use Or or copy OR and can name as ZOR and use for third party
Third party sales is controlled by item category and schedule line category settings
So any order type you can take in VOV8
In MMR the third party item category group is defined as BANS
For this BANS with any order type we maintain default item category determination as TAS in VOV4
In VOV7 we define controls for TAS mainly billing relevance as F and automatic PO ticked
In VOV5 for this TAS and MRP type of the item as per MMR we define schedule line category as CS
In VOV5 we define controls for schedule line category CS
Main settings
1. order type NB (the po type to be triggered)
2.Item category as 5 (third party)
3.Account assignment category as X
These controls whole process
In MMR also purchasing view automatic PO check box to be ticked
If you ensure these settings then when you save a sales order with order type OR or any others a Automatic PO will be created
Regards
Raja

Third party sale - Realtime configuration experience

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