Third Party Sales Accounting

Dear All,
We are facing a problem in third party scenario. PR is created through Sales order, with Account assignment category u201CZu201D and item category u201Csu201D
We have created new Account assignment category u201CZu201D w.r.t. u201CY:u201D
Details of Account assignment category u201CZu201D are as follows
Consumption posting u201DVu201D
Acct modification u201CVAXu201D
The problem is system picks the G/L of stock account by default.
(OBYC Account assigned to trading material) (BSX).
Please guide me how we can configure the system in such a way that it will consider consumption account.
If we change the G/L in PO system gives an error u201CNo direct posting can be done to G/L *****. In company code***.

Hi,
go to OBYC
Put chart of account >>> Double click BSX >>> Click on rule Icon >>> tick mark 2 Valuation/Genral modification >>> Save
then speciefy u valuation class,valuation/Genral modification as VAX & then speciefy G/L
If we change the G/L in PO system gives an error u201CNo direct posting can be done to G/L *****. In company code***.
Go to FS00 >>> Put your G/L & company code >>> Click on change >>> Under tab CREATE/BANK/INTREST >>> Remove tick mark of POST AUTOMATICALLY
Kapil
Edited by: Kapildev Farakte on Jan 18, 2010 10:28 AM

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