Third Party Sales-Automatic PO generation

Hi
I am using Item cat.TAS & Automatic PO Generation is ticked in TAS.
Schedule line cat. CS.but automatic PR is getting generated & PO is not getting generated...
Pls help...
Amol

Hi,
As far as my knowledge goes, we will be getting only PR and Not PO. You need to create PO in ME21N, with reference to this PR.
The Automatic PO Generation field in Item Category is used for creating PO for ALE Process (you can get in F1 Help)
Regards
Vamsi Javaji.

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Third Party Sales - Automatic Purchase Order Creation- via SO event

Dear SAP Gurus,
We have a requirement to have automatic PO Creation for Third Party Sales Process.
To achieve it what I have done is
a) I have created an event linking using transaction SWETYPV:
Object = BUS2032, Event = ALECREATED and ALECHANGED ,
Funtion module = PUR_ORDER_CREATE_VIA_SD_EVENT.
Also I have modified the Sales Organization data to pass Purchasing Organization, Purchase Order type and Purchasing group . Its working fine . Its creating purchase order automatically.
My question here is , I'm I doing the wright method for automatic PO creation as soon as a sales order is created.
I beleive this will call for PO creation for all Sales order not only restricted to third party sales . Will it affect performance of the system or will it ignore since there is no purchase requisition.
Please advise on the pros and cons of this process

We use a fairly standard Third Party process. We use the Item Category to drive the Schedule Line Category, which is flagged as Third-Party. On the Material Master (Purchasing view), the Material is flagged for Automatic PO, same on the Vendor Master. Workflow automatically kicks in on SO save to trigger the creation of the PO for the Purchase Req.
Unfortunately, Workflow is a bit of a dark art to me, so I couldn't tell you what we have in place. My feeling is that it is bog standard though.
Cheers, Paul.
Edited by: Paul Read on Jun 29, 2009 9:41 AM

Third Party Sales: Automatic PO (Purchase Order) not created.

Dear All,
I am Implementing thirdparty business process where goods are directly moved from vendor to my customer.
As per my customer requirement I want to create Automatic PO for the Purchase requisition created from Sales order.
For this I have done the following settings:
Marked vendor relevant for Automatic PO.
Marked Material relavent for Automatic PO
Marked Sales Item Category relavent for Automatic PO.
While I saved my sales order Purchase requision was created and system unabel to create the Purchase order automatically. If you encounter this situvation please share your views.
Thanks & regards

Hi
In third party you will not be able to create automatic PO
The schedule line category CS settings in VOV6 order type NB, MM item category 5 and account assignment category settings as X and in VOV7 for TAS create automatic PO ticked will ensure PR creation only and not PO
As suggested by the other friend you need to run t code ME59N or ME59 for automatic PO creation but certain condition to be met
1) In the Purchasing View of the material master data, the "Autom. PO" field must be clicked;
2) In the Purchasing View of the Vendor Master Data, the "Automatic Purchase Order" field must be clicked;
3) The Outline Agreement or Purchasing Info Record shall be maintained which will allow the automatic copying of unit price and other conditions into PO;
4) The Source List shall be maintained for the nominated vendor which was shown in either the Outline Agreement or Purchasing Info Record.
You have to run ME59N transaction manually or schedule this as a background job
Regards
Raja

Purchase Requestion for Third Party Sales Order

Hello Team
I want the system to create Purchase Requisition automatically and some times Manually (Possible if both Option are available) for the Sales Order which belongs to Third Party.
How to achieve this?
Thanks
Nick

Hi Nick
Following are the steps of third party:
1) Creation of third party sales order
2) Generation of automatic purchase reqisition through the configuration of schedule line CS in SD.(schedule line is determined by the item categoty and the mrp type.
please dont maintain mrp type in the material master.so that it will determin CS directly.
in the tcode VOV6,please check whether the document type NB is maintained for CS.
This will created auto PR).
3) You can check the PR Number in the schedule line tab of sales order.PR requirement will not be available in the MD04.
4) Manually create a PO for vendor with item category S.
5) There will be no GR in this case.
6) Create an invoice verification document.
7) Create an invoice from the SD side w.r.t Sales order.
Hope this might have answered ur question
Reward if useful
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STO's INTER / INTRA & THIRD PARTY SALES

Dear friends!! plz clear my doubts in the following : -
1) in STO cross comp, internal customer required and doc flow is like NBNLCCF2
and my doubt is whether pricing comes to F2 from NB with MM pricing procedure? Does Doc.PP should be assigned to F2 here??
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3)In Third paarty sales how we got to know that how much stock is delivered by vendor to customer? as we are doing order related billing? is there any other things then migo and miro?
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9916362878

Hi ,
Following are the steps of third party:
1) Creation of third party sales order
2) Generation of automatic purchase reqisition throught the configuration of schedule line CS in SD.
3) You can check the PR Number in the schedule line tab of sales order.PR requirement will not be available in the MD04.
4) Manually create a PO for vendor with item category S.
5) There will be no GR in this case.
6) Create an invoice verification document.
7) Create an invoice from the SD side w.r.t Sales order.
Sail

Automatic PR generation during third party sales order

When I am create third party Sales order , systems automatically tries to creates the PR . Ok its fine and as expected . But system asks for Account assignment. Where I can give that account assignment during the auto PR at Sales order

Hi,
In Automatic PR generation during 3rd party sales order,the account category determination depends on following configuration:
Step 1:
Sales & Distribution-->Sales->Sales Documents->Sales Document Item->Define Item Categories--
Check this configuration
Step 2:
Sales & Distribution-->Sales->Sales Documents->Sales Document Item->Define Schedule line CategoriesUnder this configuration ,for your scheduline item category ,check following entries ,Order type-NB ,Item Category---5 & Acct.Assingment category (3rd Party).
Step3:
Sales & Distribution-->Sales->Sales Documents->Sales Document Item--->Assign Schedule line Categories
Then Assign the schedule line category to 3rd Party Item category defined .
From this when PR get generated then acct.assingment category get populated automatically .
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Third party sale scenario: COGS not allowed as automatically posted.

Dear Gurus,
I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
When the user enters a PO with reference to PR which is in reference to SO, one error pops up which says COGS cannot be automatically posted only.
When I deselect the "Post automatically" tick, the PO can be saved.
Process we are following during third party sale process:-
1. Sales order.
2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
I have my own doubts on the statistical GR part. Can you pls. validate the same.
Also in case of third party sale, what will be the CO object as COGS is not created a cost element. (SAP standard)
Regards,
Harnish Shah

Hi
Please check the steps for 3rd business process.
Sales Order:VA01
List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
Inbound Delivery:VL31N Material Receipt:MIGO
Result Recording Work list:QE51N
QM Usage Decision:QA32
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Post of Goods Issue (PGI):VL02N
Post of Goods Deliver:VLPOD
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Release Billing Document for Accounting VFX3
Delivery Document list ZVL05
Edit Work list for Invoice List VF24
Output of Billing Document VF31
Customer Payment F-28
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How automatic po generated in third party sales

In third party sales an automatic puchase order is generated along with the purchase requisition....kindly help how can i get the automatic po generated
Regards
Anindya Das Gupta

Hi,
A new PO is created for a 3rd-party sales order item when indicator Create purchase order automatically (V_TVAP-ALEKZ) is set for schedule line category and the Event PUR_ORDER_CHANGE_VIA_SD_EVENT is activated (SWFDVEVTY1-ENABLED field is marked). Please see information in note 332475 for more information.
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In Third party sales, Part of MM..?

Hi guru's
Can explain about third party sales and what is major part of work for MM in that.
1.Please send me the overall flow in Third party sales process with Transaction codes.
thanks
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in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
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If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
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FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
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Capture cost of procured materials in a third party sales order scenario

Dear Experts,
I'm developing a third party sales order solution to my company following the recommended third party scenario by SAP.
Everything is working fine from creation of sales order, automatic creation of purchase requisition, create purchase order using the purchase requisition ect...
The problem I have is the in the Sales order, the cost of the material is not getting captured correctly. The condition maintained in the sales order is VPRS and it is deriving the material cost from the material master record. Ideally it should be deriving the material cost from the invoiced value or else from the purchase order(which is the actual amount we are spending to buy the items). Deriving the cost from material master depicts an incorrect profit in the sales order.
Can someone please advice me how to derive the cost(to be shown in the sales order under VPRS condition)from the invoice or the purchase requisition and Not from the material master.
I'll be grateful if you can describe in a step by step proceedure.
Thanks in advance

Hi Lakshmipathi
Thanks alot for your response.
As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
But during Billing, it does NOT get updated to reflect the purchase order price. If that happens, then its perfect.
I did a complete testing cycle and the material master price remains unchanged throught the process upto billing.
Is there any special parameter that I should maintain in VPRS condition for this to happen?
Anyway thanks again for ur reply, appreciate it alot. Let me know your views on this.
As u advise I'll post it on the sales forum as well.
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Generate PO from third party sale order

Hi expert,
When we save a Third Party sale order, it will generate a purchase requisition to buy items for us. I wonder if there are any methods to generate Purchase Order directly (Not via PR) from sales order ?
Thanks so much.
Edited by: Truong Tran on Feb 26, 2009 12:30 PM

Hi,
As you know - only PR will be automatically getting genreated in case of third party sale order or individual purchase order.
This is because of the schedule line category - CB and CS.
When the item category is TAB/TAS - it will determine the schdule line categor CB/CS which leads to generate PR automatically.
There is an item category 'ALES' (Create PO Automatic - check box in VOV7 - will be checked) - which will create both PR and PO.
I have not used that item category yet.. I think - though we use ALES item category - it won't create automatic PO.
Except ALES item category.. - I do not have idea on ALES item category..
(i.e., PO will never be automatically created without using the transaction.)
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PO Creation for third party sales

Hi
We have the scenario Third party sales and High sea sales which is already in use (already configured) , where PR getting generated automatically .
But client requirement is they want the PO to generate automatically by the system the moment i save the sales order .
Where is the setting in the SAP , where system will generate the PO automatically instead of PR
Please suggest

Hi,
Go to VOV7
Select third party item category which u r using in sales order >>> Deatils >>> under transaction flow >>> Tickmark to CREATE PO AUTOMATIC.
If you activate this field, the system automatically generates both a purchase order requisition for third-party schedule lines as well as a purchase order in the background when you save the sales order.
However u can not create PO directly.
Kapil

Billing Qty in Third party sales

Hi ,
I am MM person , executing a Cycle for third party Sales.
I have query regarding Item category , in std SAP Billing relevance field value for Item category TAS is set as F ... what does it mean ? What if i set it to B , what would be difference ?
Also , at my end , I have creates a Sales order - > PR - > PO and now i am changing Qty in PO and expecting that it will automatically update my Sales order but it is not happening.
Is it Std functionality
regards
Shrey

Hi
SAP Billing relevance field value for Item category TAS is set as F ...
what does it mean ?
F: Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice quantity
Relevant for order-related billing documents based on the invoice receipt quantity (third-party business transaction). The system transfers the order into the billing due list only after the vendor invoice has been received and processed in the purchasing department. After the receipt of each invoice, a customer invoice is created for the quantity that appears on the vendor invoice. The order has status "Billed" until the next vendor invoice is received.
Item category TAS (Third party item) is set up with billing relevance "F" in the standard system.
This process can also be related to the quantity of goods receipt.
This is self explanatory
F means system will check whether MIRO has been done for that item
What if i set it to B , what would be difference ?
Billing relevance B is wrong for third party because if the sales order is for 5 qty qnd the vendor PO is for 5 units but the vendor delivers only 3 to your customer directly and he gives you bill for only 3 and you do MIRO for 3
If you make Billing relevance B system will make customer invoice for 5 qty which is wrong
If you make Billing relevance F system will make customer invoice for 3 qty which is correct
Also , at my end , I have creates a Sales order - > PR - > PO and now
i am changing Qty in PO and expecting that it will automatically update
my Sales order but it is not happening.
Is it Std functionality
Yes if you update po qty system will not update the sales order qty
you need to go for some development here
Regards
Raja

Tax & Excise in Third Party Sales

Hi Friends,
As per Std.SAP in third party Sales Scenario a PR will be automatically created when we save the SO & out of that we create a PO.
Now kindly provide clarifications for the below query's
1. When we create a PO with respect to this PR (Is taxes & excise applicable) ?
2. How we have to maintain this Third Party Material in J1ID inorder to determine the excise rates for Calculation?
3. As per this Scenario our Vendor will deliver the goods to our customer & we will do a Statistical GR which will post to the consumption & GR/IR clearing accounts. Now what will the impact in Excise side as our material in the PO is subjected to excise?
4. Do we take the Cenvat credit as in case of Raw materials??
Since I am not clear in the excise & taxes part of this Scenario. Please help me..
Regards,

Excise Duty: Excise Duty is applicable only in an manufacturing scenario in India. I will illustrate with sone examples, as under:
Example 1:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 100/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component in above scenario)
Example 2:
Stock Transfer from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Plant 'D'.
Plant 'D' has a requirement for material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Assessable Value is Rs. 80/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component, but Vat will not be applicable in above scenario)
Example 3:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (Trading product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 120/-, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will not be applicable in above scenario)
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Third party sales issue

hi
experts,
can any body explain in third party sales where do we see migo, miro, if possible step by step process.
thanks in advance

Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Regards
Deepak

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