Third party sales configuration step wise:
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I have got very good reply on the subject thread from Mr.Dasari Narendra, it is very very usful n solved y problem, thanks to mr, Dasari.
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Can please send those documents to me also?
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Third party sales configuration
Dear
I needed your guidance for third party sales when vendor supply the material to the customer we keep item category group BANS and stock entered virtually in our stock and then vendor invoice generated and received by the company through MIGO and MIRO.
My question is that when vendor supply to the company and company supply to the client or other wise I can say our item category is HAWA in that case what will be process can you elaborate the process and configuration of the scenario.
Thanks
RitiHi Riti,
Just adding to Kapil's input,
hope below input will helpyou
An Example Of Third Party Sales
Scenario:
2 companies are created in system - India & Singapore Customer places sales order for particular material on Singapore. Singapore is not able to produce the same. They pass on the order to India for processing. After processing India ships the material directly to the customer along with necessary documentation. Invoice copy is passed on to Singapore. Final Commercial Invoice will be raised by Singapore. How can the above scenario handled?
By: Balaji
You can do this using third party sales.
The third party sales process is as under.
1) Singapore company creates an order for the singapore customer.
2) Because of the configuration settings of the sales document type, item category & schedule line category, as soon as the order is saved a PR (purchase requisition) is automatically generated. This is converted into PO (purchase order) and sent to the Indian company.
3) Indian company supplies the material directly to the Singapore customer.
4) Indian company sends the invoice to the Singapore Company.
5) Singapore company does the invoice verification in MM using tcode MIRO.
6) Singapore company raises the invoice to the singapore customer.
In standard SAP, item category TAS is used for this. The schedule line category is CS. Here you can see a field 'order type' with value 'NB'. This triggers the automatic creation of the PR.
Plus in the material master also you need to do certain settings.
1) If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS. The procurement type should be marked as external procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
2) If you are not always allowing third party order processing then you can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as (X) meaning both types of procurement (in house manufacturing and external procurement).
In the item category the billing relevance should be 'F'.
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1)
After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always followwing a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procument type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurment ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to confugure the item category determination
ord type + item cat grp + usge + Hiv level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN . + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevnat for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line cateogry for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requision order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requiesion.
Regads Siva -
Third party procurement configuration steps
Hi all,
I have process flow knowledge.
Can some body explain me congifuration steps & key elements that are to be taken care in the process.
thanksHi,
3rd Party is nothing but trading business. you Receive a order from your customer (sales Order) n Issue/raise Purchase Order on Vendor. and ask ur vendor to delivery the goods directly to your customer.
steps in R/3
1. Create Sales Order (VA01)
2. System will create PR in backgroud (ME53N)
3. Convert PR into PO. (ME21N)
4. Create GR (Optional) (MIGO-101)
5. Create IV(Vendor Invoice) (MIRO)
6. and finally Generate SD Billing (VF01)
This is SD-MM Integrated business process.
hope this will clear you.
Regards,
Hareesha k -
Third party sale - Realtime configuration experience
Could you share your experience in connection with Third party sale configuration during realtime?
In other words, for 3rd party sale configuration -
1) Did you (SD consultant) configure it in SAP together with a MM consultant?
2) What tasks / areas did you cover and what did the MM consultant cover?
3) The prices to pay to the third party by the company (your client), who configured it (you or MM consultant)?
4) Any other realtime issues, learnings in connection with third party configuration process?
Please note - I am not asking for the "technical" steps (e.g. BANS, TAS, CS, Purchase org., ME11, ME01 etc.)
Many thanks, in advance!1) Did you (SD consultant) configure it in SAP together with a MM consultant?
Yes. It has to be configured with help / co-operation from MM side.
2) What tasks / areas did you cover and what did the MM consultant cover?
SD Consultant - All SD related config like Sales Doc type, item Category (most important Billing relevance), Schedule Line Category (activaton of creation of PR), Copy Control between Order & Invoice & Procing Procedure.
3) The prices to pay to the third party by the company (your client), who configured it (you or MM consultant)?
You mean for payment to Vendor - it is purely MM Configuration right from Creation of PO from PR, Statistical MIGO (if Required) & MIRO (Purchase Invoice).
4) Any other realtime issues, learnings in connection with third party configuration process?
My most important learning was Billing Relevance settting in SD Item Cateogry. (I mean you can control in SD, whether the Sales Invoice is to be created on basis on Statistical MIGO or MIRO)...
The above question & answers are too generic. Kindly let us know any specific qiestions you have.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta -
Hi,
We have a third party sales requirement and i need to configure the MM part from when the sales order triggers a PR to Invoice recept which will update the billing document for the customer.
Would be really grateful if someone can guide preferrably starting from the creation of sales order.
Regards,
Akhil
Edited by: Akhilpuri on Nov 11, 2011 5:11 AM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Nov 11, 2011 8:08 AMHi
In this case you have to take a help of your SD consultant,
In third party your vendor will send material directly to your customer and your material master will have both sale and purchasing view
check following link
[http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm]
[Third party sales configuration;
Regards
kailas Ugale -
Hi everyone,
Can anyone give me Third party sales configuration document
Regards,
BlessonHi,
Pls do a basic search in the forum before you post your queries.
Create customer master with XD01 by using account group 0001 under 2200 u2013 10 u2013 00 sales area.
Create a material master with MM01 with the material type u201CTrading goodsu201D.
Maintain the data in all the views and make sure that general item category group BANS
Purchasing group [000] in purchasing view
Create a vendor using transaction code XK01
Specify vendor number [ ] Here it is external
Company code [2200]
Purchasing organization [2200]
Account group [0001] and press ENTER
Maintain the data in all the required fields
Go to Next screen option
Specify Reconciliation account number [ ] sort key [ ]
Cash management group [A1]
Order currency [EUR] (customer is from France)
Save and Exit
Go to VA01 and raise the sales order
Change the item category as TAS (from TAN to TAS)
Save the document and note down the sales order number and Exit
Go to (sales order) VA03 Schedule lines and note down the purchase requisition number that has been displayed in purchase requisition field.
Raise the purchase order with reference to purchase requisition number by using Transaction code ME21
Specify the vendor number [ ]
Purchasing group [005] = Standard
Again purchasing group [000] and press ENTER
Click on with reference to purchase requisition
Select line item and click on Adopts + Details push button on application bar
In this section we have to specify the net price (cost that we maintained in the material master).
[] Un u2013 check GR (Goods Receipt)
If you uncheck GR, we can do the invoice verification based on the goods receipts.
Save the document and note down the number and Exit
Go to MIRO for invoice verification
Here we have to specify invoice date and purchase order number and specify purchase order number in
purchase order number [ ] field of PO reference tab and specify reference field and press ENTER
Then you can view balance amount from right side
The same amount should be specified in amount [ ] field and press ENTER
Then system makes balance amount 0 (zero). That means invoice verification has been done (completed).
Save the document and note down the number and Exit
Raise invoice to the customer [VF01]
Specify the standard order number and raise the invoice
Save and Exit
Go to VA02 (sales document) and observe the document flow.
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Credit management configuration in Third party sales
Dear All,
Please let me know , what are the configuration setting for Credit Management in Third Party Sales.
Regards
SKumarHi...
For Third Party, since there is no Delivery and PGI, the block can be at Billing.
however the total outstanding value from the customer at the time of billing along with the days as set in the credit limit shall be basis of blocking.
Config Steps:
u2022 Assigned the credit control area to the company code
Financial Accounting (New) Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable Credit management Credit Control Account Assign Permitted Credit Control Area to Company Code
u2022 Assign Sale Document and Delivery Document, The credit limit check for the selected sales document type is set to automatic control.
Sales and Distribution Basic Functions Credit management / Risk management Credit Management Assign Sales Documents and Delivery Document Credit limit check for order types
u2022 Assigning Risk Category to Credit Control Area
Financial Accounting (New) Accounts Receivable and Account Payable Credit management Credit Control Account Define Risk Categories
u2022 Defining Automatic Credit Control
Financial Supply Chain Management Credit Management Integration with Accounts Receivable Accounting and Sales and Distribution Integration with Sales and Distribution Define Automatic Credit Control -
How to configure a new third party sales document type?
Hi SAP SD gurus,
I am new to the SAP world, I need your help in configuring a new third party sales document type for a site.
There are existing third party document types being used in the region, but the client wants an entirely new third party document type that is activated for CREDIT MANAGEMENT.
I just need your inputs, as how to go about it. If I copy from an existing third party sales doc. What additional steps do I need to follow? Like Item category config, copy control settings, and credit management.
Is there a need to create new billing types?
Also as per process, by creating a new document type, how will it affect the logistic processes, if any?
Thanks a lot in advance for your valuable inputs.Hello,
You can create new document type under following customization path
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Define Sales Document Types
Now create new document type by copying the standard document type OR
Now go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Define Item Categories
which is already defined for third party sales (TAS)
Now assign this iteme category to your new document type
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Assign Item Categories
Assignment needs to be done in combination of sales document type and item category group (BANS)
Now
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Schedule Lines
Assignment of schedule line is already done as you are using the standard one.
Lastly, you may need to maintain copy control for your newly created sales document type for this go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Maintain Copy Control for Sales Documents
(Copying Control: Sales Document to Sales Document)
Here you can define copy control requirements.
BR,
Tushar -
EDI Basic configuration settings for Third party sales
Dear All,
Could you help step by step how to configure EDI to send PO automatically to outsourcing company for the Third party sales order.
Thanks
CG BalajiHi roberto
Please send me basic EDI configuration document to my mail id [email protected] this will help me a lot.
Thanks and regards,
CG Balaji -
Excise configuration in case of Third party sales
In case of third party sales of a excisable material, where the goods are supplied directly to customer by the vendor.
However the customer invoice is sent to the customer my organization
How will the excise entries take place?
Because in this case goods are not supplied from my depot, Also i need to charge the customer for excise, since the goods are excisable.
Can I claim the excise benefit for the above sale process?
Please revert
Regards
Sudhir ChavanAs the goods are not delivered from your factory premise and are delivered for vendor.
Means in system there is no outward goods movement from your plant.
So, logically you should not create Excise invoice for this.
But, you may need to consider VAT/CST based on the sales.
And that doesn't require any excise invoice.
Thus, no requirement of Excise configuration in case of Third party sales.
Yes, from procurement point of view, you would be paying excise to the vendor for this purchase.
Regards
JP -
How to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me detail
dear expert
how to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me details. waiting your valuable reply
vickyyou can find the details in the below links
Re: THird party sales complete scenario
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/PROCEDURETOCREATETHIRDPARTY+SALES
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm
Regards -
How will i configure third party sales order
pls tell me how will i configure for third party sales order
dear,
prasanta,
the configuration of third party sales order is given below
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
i think it will fulfill your requirement if so plz reward point.
ambarish -
Configuration for Third Party Sales Order
Hi All,
I would need some advise on how should I go about to configure a third party sales order. The MM consultant has configured a special item category for it but the sales order has some incompletion data error where the schedule line could not be maintained.
Kindly advise.
ThanksHi Lee,
Pls go through the following links below:
[Third party sales order|http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sd/third-party-order-processing.htm]
[configuration for Third party sales order|http://www.saptechies.com/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales/]
Hope these helps you.
Regards,
Krishna. -
Cannot close sales order for third party sales
Hello Gurus,
I cant seem to close a third party sales order even after it has been delivered and the incoming reciept match the sales order as well as purchase requisition or purchase order. at first I thought it was the difference in the unit of measure b/w the delivered products and the ordered products, but that is not the case because even when they are still the same and the quantities match I still have an issue and when I run VA05 (list of sales order) the sales order for the third party sales still shows up. An example is sales order XXX / PO XYZ/ Inv XYY u2013 ordered 45,000, shipped 39,980), we resolve it with the following steps below
1. change the PO quantity to match the invoice quantity
2. the requisition then re-opened itself automatically.
3. I then changed the requisition and marked it closed.
4. I then could go to the sales order and change the order quantity to match the billed and invoiced quantity. The rejection code 52 did not work u2013 I received a hard error: PO XYZ must be deleted before the line item could be rejected.
This is a whole lot of steps to perform just to correct 1 backorder. The reason that it had to be corrected is that the sales order mfg line stays on the Billing Due list and does not clear it self out unless you perform the steps above.
Also like I said even when all the quantities are the same I still have this issue so is ther any thing I can do to resolve this issue in configuration or otherwise and also we are using the satndard item category "TAS" for third party sales.
I will appreciate you contribution and help to resolve this matter
ThanksUnfortunately, all the steps need to be performed to close the status. I think even giving tolerances will not close the status. If it is a regular sale order, a small BDC program may be written to change the sale order quantity to match the invoice quantity. Since its a third party and there are too many documents which are involved in the process using ABAP programs is not a convenient option.
Regards,
GSL. -
Third party sale-how to GI GR simultaneously in outbound delivery
VA01 - Item cat:TAS/ sch.line cat- CS- with which automatic PR will be created,
schedule line- bussiness data :item category =blank , acct assgt cat. =M .movement type =601 .
item category; special stock = E.
ME21N wrt: PR generated in step-1
vl01n - assignment of Purchase order in outbound delivery
vl02n - carry out at the same time a goods issue (referred to the delivery) and a goods receipt (referred to the PO).
MIRO - verifying vendor invoice.
VF01- wrt: sales order created in step-1
in this case, my process is not like the stander third party sale.
How to config the sap to GI and GR simultaneously in the the t-code "vl02n"?
and GI and GR is all related to the "E" stock?
thanks a lot.
Edited by: cai_yu on Mar 21, 2010 12:38 PMHi,
In third party sales there is no outbound delivery take place, our vendor ships material to our customer,
Process :
Create sales order >> PR >> P.O >> Invoice reciepts >> Invoice to customer
Still if you want to carry our that goods you recieved & want to perform outbound delivery then you can still able to configure it, but simplest way is just Determine item category TAB instead of tas in sales order
Process
Sales order >> PR >> PO >> Goods reciepts - MIGO >> Invoice reciepts - MIRO >> Outbound delivery >> Invoice to customer.
Kapil
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