Third party sales orders are not showing in Billing due list (VF04 )

Hi,
In Billing due list Third party sales orders are not appearing because VKDFS table those entries are there. How can we get Third party sales orders in VKDFS table as well as VF04 ?
Please suggest me.
Regards,
KUR

Hi Kur & Sandepp,
Check this notes:A) Note 210500 - Billing status of a third-party item,B)2) Note 210561 - When is a third-party item displayed in VF04.
Re
Regards,
Madhu.

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