Third party sales problem

Hi ,
While doing third party process i'm getting error that " Purchase order do not any item" this has come when i hve done MIGO.
help in this matter.
Regards

Hi Singh,
U created PO without items. That;s why ur getting that error.
U create one more PO with reference to PR using the t.code ME57.
Reward points pls.
Regards,
Govind.

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when I am creating third party sales order,system is going to 'Standard Order:Purchase Order Schedule' screen.So,it confirm the quantity after 1 day instead of my particular given date.can anybody tell me why it is showing this screen ? how can I overcome this problem ? Please give me suggestion .
with regards,
Rana

There are two lead times involved -
1. Purchase Lead time - time reqd. by internal purchasing dept. for processing
2. Vendor Lead Time - time reqd. by vendor to deliver.
For vendor lead time check in ME11 (vendor material info record). In the Purchasing Org Data 1 tab - check planned delivery time.
Also in Material Master - in Purchasing tab - check GR processing field. Also pls. check other fields in purchasing and MRP tabs.
Also Check - SPRO > MATERIALS MANAGEMENT > PURCHASING > PURCHASE REQUISITION > PROCESSING TIME
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Problem related to Third Party Sales

Dear All,
The problem as per the company's requirement are as follows -
There are two different Companies X & Y having Company Codes 1000 & 1020 respectively where Company Y is a FZE ( free zone enterprise). Now Company X is selling goods to Company Y where the ship to party is customer 2 under Company Y while the payer is Company Y.In short Company X will not raise any invoice against customer 2 of company Y , it will only send an invoice to Company Y which in turn will raise an invoice immediately against it's customer 2.No GR (Goods Receipt) will take place between the two companies as it will get generated when it is received by customer 2.How to configure this with the help of Third Party Sales in SD Module ?
Please suggest.
Thanks & Regards
Priyanka Mitra

Hi Priyanka,
Please go through below step by step procedure...c it might help u to solve your problem
please let me know ,if u didnt get solution
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always followwing a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procument type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurment ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to confugure the item category determination
ord type + item cat grp + usge + Hiv level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN . + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevnat for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line cateogry for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requision order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requiesion
Accordingly you can create documents related to 3rd party sales.
Please reward with points if it really helps you
With best regards
Abhi
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Problem in third party sales

HI ALL
CAN ANY ONE GIVE ON THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON THIRD PARTY ORDER / INDIVIDUAL PURCHASE ORDER.
PLS GIVE ME REPLY ASAP.......
REGARDS
RAO

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
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VL01N
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save

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I'm developing a third party sales order solution to my company following the recommended third party scenario by SAP.
Everything is working fine from creation of sales order, automatic creation of purchase requisition, create purchase order using the purchase requisition ect...
The problem I have is the in the Sales order, the cost of the material is not getting captured correctly. The condition maintained in the sales order is VPRS and it is deriving the material cost from the material master record. Ideally it should be deriving the material cost from the invoiced value or else from the purchase order(which is the actual amount we are spending to buy the items). Deriving the cost from material master depicts an incorrect profit in the sales order.
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Hi Lakshmipathi
Thanks alot for your response.
As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
But during Billing, it does NOT get updated to reflect the purchase order price. If that happens, then its perfect.
I did a complete testing cycle and the material master price remains unchanged throught the process upto billing.
Is there any special parameter that I should maintain in VPRS condition for this to happen?
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(intranet.sap.com/co-pa):
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I understand ur problem. First check that you have maintained all the time durations that would be taken into consideration when the sales order will do the scheduling. E.g.
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Our client requirement has been mapped as sap third party sales process .
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you can achieve your requirement by following
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use you Third party order type and billing type
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It is working if the biling relevance is maintained as f, the status shows completed but i want this for G
Over all status is being in processed and order related billing at item level is partially invoiced.
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Hi Santosh,
Thanks for clearing it out.
I did not understand what do you mean when u say"MIRO" process, write now our business requires the customer invoice to be created after the MIGO is done for PO, for which we have put billing relevance as G.
The problem now is, since the relevance is G which is order related billingof deliveyr quantity, even though the invice is completd and the accoounting document is cleared the ordder status still shows "being processed"
You have already mentioned it very clearly that this can be changed it using the user exit, but i just wanted to confirm that again.
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