Third party sales scenario

Hi All,
We have received an order for 1000 qty. we can produce and deliver only 500, so we have a third party which will produce and deliver it directly to the customer.
I want to know how this process goes on in SAP. specifically if we deliver 500 qty with a delivery note, then how we will accomodate other 500 qty in delivery and how to bill it.
Kindly help me understanding the process.
Thanks and regards,
Danny.

Dear Danny
If u want total 1000 qty to be delivered together n billed at once.
In my opinion, u can very well do it by maintaining the Item Category TAB for Third Party Item.
So this will be an Individual Purchase Order scenario of Third Party.
Vendor will deliver goods to you n you can deliver those goods with your own goods, to customer.
Or otherwise, if you want your vendor to deliver goods directly to customer n you will deliver yours, in that case, two deliveries will take place but still u can create single Billing Invoice for both the deliveries.
In this case, u have to use Item Category TAS for third party item.
U will bill the customer on the basis of Shipping Notification raised by the Vendor.
If u want more details, check the link -
http://help.sap.com/bp_bl603/BL_IN/html/index.htm
Hope this helps u.

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Third party sale scenario: COGS not allowed as automatically posted.

Dear Gurus,
I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
When the user enters a PO with reference to PR which is in reference to SO, one error pops up which says COGS cannot be automatically posted only.
When I deselect the "Post automatically" tick, the PO can be saved.
Process we are following during third party sale process:-
1. Sales order.
2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
I have my own doubts on the statistical GR part. Can you pls. validate the same.
Also in case of third party sale, what will be the CO object as COGS is not created a cost element. (SAP standard)
Regards,
Harnish Shah

Hi
Please check the steps for 3rd business process.
Sales Order:VA01
List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
Inbound Delivery:VL31N Material Receipt:MIGO
Result Recording Work list:QE51N
QM Usage Decision:QA32
Activities due for Shipping `Sales Orders, fast display` VL10A　(VL01N)
Post of Goods Issue (PGI):VL02N
Post of Goods Deliver:VLPOD
Post the Billing doc VF01 or Maintain the Billing due list-VF04
Release Billing Document for Accounting VFX3
Delivery Document list ZVL05
Edit Work list for Invoice List VF24
Output of Billing Document VF31
Customer Payment F-28
As per my knowledge once psot the PGI,System will upddate COGS values.
Regards
asuvamsi

Third party sales scenario for Service.

Dear Friends,
Is it possible to create third party sales scenario for Service. If it is possible Please up date me the configuration process.
Regards,
Bhanu

Hi Banu,
Please go through this link it will help you about third party process in SAP R/3
You need to create the service material with BANS itemctegory group.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/560287545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

A doubt on third party sales scenario

hi gurus
please anybody solve my doubt
in the third party sales scenario, the vendor delivers the goods to the customer and sends the delivery acknowledgement to the company.
by what configurations the delivery acknowledgement will automatically go to the company from vendor
regards
mahesh

When you do MIGO (Goods Receipt), it will trigger PGI automatically.
Vendor has to inform Us when they delivered to our Customer. This could be done via Proof of Delivery (POD).
Let me know if you need more details.
Please reward points if you find this information is useful /resolves your issue.
Thanks,
Ramesh

Acct assignemnt for the PR Third Party sales scenario

Hello,
In third party sales, when we create a SO it automatically creates a Purchase requisition. It is a Account assigned Pr with acct assgt cat as "X".
For this acct assgt cat "X" I have VAX as the acct modifier.
In OBYC i have set the G/L for this GBB - VAX
The PR that is getting generated from Sales order is not taking this G/L instead it is picking the G/L assigned from BSX trasaction key.
My question is in a Third party scenario it shud pick the COGS G/L that we have assigned in VAX or the stock G/L assigned in BSX ??
If it shud be the VAX G/L what could have gone wrong?
Please advice,
Thanks a ton in advance.

Hi
Chk in Configuration
Spro > materials mmgnt > Purchasing > acc Assignment > acc assignment category > Go to X > see details > Chk the acccount modifications >
If nothing is there put VAX
Hope it solve u r problem
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Problem in third party sales scenario

Hi all,
When i'm creating sales order for third party i'm not getting purchase requistion number and when i'm enter third party in sales order system displaying message like " Puchase requistion can only be created for items assigned to plant. Please solve my issue.
Thanks and regards
Keshav

Hi
In standard SAP, item category TAS is used for this. The schedule line category is CS. Here you can see a field 'order type' with value 'NB'. This triggers the automatic creation of the PR.
Plus in the material master also you need to do certain settings.
1) If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS. The procurement type should be marked as external procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
2) If you are not always allowing third party order processing then you can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as (X) meaning both types of procurement (in house manufacturing and external procurement).
In the item category the billing relevance should be 'F'.
With Regards
baalakrushnan.da

Tax & Excise in Third Party Sales

Hi Friends,
As per Std.SAP in third party Sales Scenario a PR will be automatically created when we save the SO & out of that we create a PO.
Now kindly provide clarifications for the below query's
1. When we create a PO with respect to this PR (Is taxes & excise applicable) ?
2. How we have to maintain this Third Party Material in J1ID inorder to determine the excise rates for Calculation?
3. As per this Scenario our Vendor will deliver the goods to our customer & we will do a Statistical GR which will post to the consumption & GR/IR clearing accounts. Now what will the impact in Excise side as our material in the PO is subjected to excise?
4. Do we take the Cenvat credit as in case of Raw materials??
Since I am not clear in the excise & taxes part of this Scenario. Please help me..
Regards,

Excise Duty: Excise Duty is applicable only in an manufacturing scenario in India. I will illustrate with sone examples, as under:
Example 1:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 100/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component in above scenario)
Example 2:
Stock Transfer from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Plant 'D'.
Plant 'D' has a requirement for material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Assessable Value is Rs. 80/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component, but Vat will not be applicable in above scenario)
Example 3:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (Trading product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 120/-, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will not be applicable in above scenario)
Regards,
Rajesh Banka

Manual G/L postings for COGS in third party sales

Hello,
I have a scenario where we have the COGS G/L which is blocked for Manual postings. Now in case of a Third party sales scenario when the PO is created from the Sales order it is a account assigned PO so the G/L determined from GBB- VAX is the COGS G/L. But now as this G/L is locked for manual posting I am not able to process the PO.
Is there anyway I can bypass this lock for this particular scenario.
Kindly advise,
Points will be awarded,
Thanks

Hi,
Create a new G/L account for COGS -THIRD PARTY SALES
but dont select the check box "automatic postings only" & save the G/L account.
Now assign the same G/L account in VAX- GBB in OBYC.
Hope it will work for you and then reward.
Regards,
Biju K

Third party sales- why MIGO in our system?

Why we do MIGO in third party sales scenario, as we dont have stock movement in our plant?
In the case- third party vendor delivers the goods directly to customer?
Please clear me?
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MIGO- why we do it in third party sales?

Why we do MIGO in third party sales scenario?
what is the effect of it on- our inventory?
(In the case- third party vendor delivers the goods directly to customer)
Please clear me?

Incase of Third Party, the scenario can be mapped with 2 possibilities (Check details as under):
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1500/BL_India/index.htm
Path: Technical Info --> Building Blocks --> Country: India
J54: Third Party with Shipping Notification (MIGO required)
J55: Third Party without Shipping Notification (MIGO not required)
It depends on configuration whether MIGO is required or not.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Availability check in third party sales

Hi SD Gurus,
I have configured third party sales scenario.
I have an issue. When I create sales order for the customer the system goes into availability check before creating the Purchase Requisition. Should the system go into availability check for third party sales scenario as at schedule line category level i.e CS availability check is disabled .
Please provide your suggestions. Thx in advance.
Jayant

I have one more query.. On doing the MIGO after the Purchase Order is created should the stock increase for the receiving plant in MMBE.. I have checked and it is not getting increased.. Please let me know if the stock should get increased or not..
Please answer the above 2 queries :
1) Related to the availability check in third party sales.
2) Second related to MIGO in third party sales.
Thanks
Jayant

Third party sales COPA document is not getting generated for MIGO

Hi
Kindly help to resolve the following.
Third Party Sale Scenario
While doing to MIGO accounting document and controlling document is getting generated, but not generating COPA document.
In KEI2 and KE4IM assignments are maitained for condition type and value field.
For SD the COPA document is getting generated.
Kindly help to resolve.
Thanks n Regards
N Sathish Kumar

If you have created new GL Accounts to map the Third party scenario, the pre-requesite is that you might need to create cost elemenet with category 11 or 12.
Further only assignments are condition types assigned to value fields.
Check if the billing type is reset under TCode KE4W.

Third party sales configuration

Dear
I needed your guidance for third party sales when vendor supply the material to the customer we keep item category group BANS and stock entered virtually in our stock and then vendor invoice generated and received by the company through MIGO and MIRO.
My question is that when vendor supply to the company and company supply to the client or other wise I can say our item category is HAWA in that case what will be process can you elaborate the process and configuration of the scenario.
Thanks
Riti

Hi Riti,
Just adding to Kapil's input,
hope below input will helpyou
An Example Of Third Party Sales
Scenario:
2 companies are created in system - India & Singapore Customer places sales order for particular material on Singapore. Singapore is not able to produce the same. They pass on the order to India for processing. After processing India ships the material directly to the customer along with necessary documentation. Invoice copy is passed on to Singapore. Final Commercial Invoice will be raised by Singapore. How can the above scenario handled?
By: Balaji
You can do this using third party sales.
The third party sales process is as under.
1) Singapore company creates an order for the singapore customer.
2) Because of the configuration settings of the sales document type, item category & schedule line category, as soon as the order is saved a PR (purchase requisition) is automatically generated. This is converted into PO (purchase order) and sent to the Indian company.
3) Indian company supplies the material directly to the Singapore customer.
4) Indian company sends the invoice to the Singapore Company.
5) Singapore company does the invoice verification in MM using tcode MIRO.
6) Singapore company raises the invoice to the singapore customer.
In standard SAP, item category TAS is used for this. The schedule line category is CS. Here you can see a field 'order type' with value 'NB'. This triggers the automatic creation of the PR.
Plus in the material master also you need to do certain settings.
1) If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS. The procurement type should be marked as external procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
2) If you are not always allowing third party order processing then you can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as (X) meaning both types of procurement (in house manufacturing and external procurement).
In the item category the billing relevance should be 'F'.
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1)
After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always followwing a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procument type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurment ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to confugure the item category determination
ord type + item cat grp + usge + Hiv level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN . + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevnat for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line cateogry for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requision order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requiesion.
Regads Siva

Third party sales - Sales Accrual

Is there a way I can book a Sales Accrual in a third party sale scenario when I book a statistical GR?
Thanks
Raj

This is the Third Party Sales Process:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
So when the business receives the the invoice(MIRO) from vendor, that is when it is confirmed that the goods are delivered to the customer.
Regards
sai

Capture cost of procured materials in a third party sales order scenario

Dear Experts,
I'm developing a third party sales order solution to my company following the recommended third party scenario by SAP.
Everything is working fine from creation of sales order, automatic creation of purchase requisition, create purchase order using the purchase requisition ect...
The problem I have is the in the Sales order, the cost of the material is not getting captured correctly. The condition maintained in the sales order is VPRS and it is deriving the material cost from the material master record. Ideally it should be deriving the material cost from the invoiced value or else from the purchase order(which is the actual amount we are spending to buy the items). Deriving the cost from material master depicts an incorrect profit in the sales order.
Can someone please advice me how to derive the cost(to be shown in the sales order under VPRS condition)from the invoice or the purchase requisition and Not from the material master.
I'll be grateful if you can describe in a step by step proceedure.
Thanks in advance

Hi Lakshmipathi
Thanks alot for your response.
As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
But during Billing, it does NOT get updated to reflect the purchase order price. If that happens, then its perfect.
I did a complete testing cycle and the material master price remains unchanged throught the process upto billing.
Is there any special parameter that I should maintain in VPRS condition for this to happen?
Anyway thanks again for ur reply, appreciate it alot. Let me know your views on this.
As u advise I'll post it on the sales forum as well.
Regards,
Randika

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