Third Party - Statistical GR

Hi,
Is there any configurational settings needs to be done in processing a Statistical Gr for a Third Party Purchase Order.
I had done all of the settings in the SD module, created a Sales Order which in turn created a PR in background & Converted the PR to the PO with the account assignment category and item category as Third party.
But when i have tried to make a GR, the system throws a message stating that there is no items selectable in the PO but the PO is sill open.
Could any one help me in getting the configurational settings needs to be carried to process a Statistical GR for a Third Party Purchase Order.
Regards,
DilliB

hi,
Here is the explanation of confirmation control key.
Confirmation control key
Determines which confirmation categories are expected for a PO item (e.g. order acknowledgment, shipping notification).
Procedure
Enter the key containing the confirmation categories agreed with the vendor.
Dependencies
If you enter a key and select Acknowl. reqd, you can have messages issued to vendors urging them to submit overdue order acknowledgments (acknowledgment expediters). Other confirmation categories cannot be expedited in this way.
you need to create inbound delivery ie confirmation of goods have been delivered to customer place thru t code VL31N and then do MIGO after that.
If you are not following the process you deselect that confirmation control key and do MIGO.
Thanks
Suresh

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I was trying to activate the functionalty for statistical GR in third party but STUCK due to following issues. For enabling this functionaltity I have checked "Goods Reciept" and "GR Non-Valuated" check in "Delivery tab" of PO.
1. After creating Statistical GR through MIGO (101), stock has been posted in plant. I was expecting no movement in Stock .
2. I was hoping there should not be in FI posting but FI entry is posted through statistical GR .
We are using third party process from many years but without statistical GR. Requirement from client is to post statistical GR without FI entry and no stock should be updated. Please advise if anyone has idea on this.
FYI--We have item category TAS and schedule line category CS in customisation. Also advise if above two settings in PO are enought to turn ON the statistical GR functionality.
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Here is the explanation of confirmation control key.
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Refer following SDN thread, by that you will be able to get overview on best practices about Third Party Sales & necessary configuration you need to follow for statistical GR:
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I have already posted MIRO without any error and 5600142351 no. generated.
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Dear Mahesh
The Process of third party is as follows:
Customer gives order to our company and the product which he ordered is dispatched through one of our vendor or supplier directly to customer place and once we receive pod from Customer we charge him.
Steps in SAP:
1. Create sales order
2. W.r.t to Purchase Requistion create Purchase order.
3.Do Statistical MIGO and then MIRO
4.Do Billing W.r.t Sales Order
As Materials are not coming to plant need not to do any Delivery Document in SAP.

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Dear Experts,
Kindly need help for third party process.
We have third party process which triggered from Sales Order. This Sales Order will automatically created PR. PR will be convert into PO.
The issue is we would like to have goods in Sales Order (or Purchase Order in next process) as inventory value when receiving goods.
Can third party process be treated as inventory value when receiving it?
Thank you in advance.
Best Regards,

In third party process your customer gets the goods directly from your vendor.
You only make a statistical GR ("phantom" GR) in the system, the goods are physically received by your customer and your customer's inventory will increase after your customer's GR and not yours. Knowing this your question doesn't make any sense I think.
If your third party process is not a real third party process and you receive the goods physically and after that you sell it your customer you can use individual PO scenario.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/dd/5601d4545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
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How to handle the cost in third party process

Hi experts,
As the request, my client has some trading goods. the customer buy them from my client. but there is no stock in my client. for this transaction, my client send PO to the vendor and the vendor delivers the products to the customer directly. After my client recieve the shipping notification, they create the invoice to end customer. So i want to use the Third-Party Function.
But i have a confuse. How dose sap process the cost of trading goods(HAWA) in standard? you know, there is no stock for the trading goods, how to get the condition value of cost(VPRS)? Is there any special setting for the trading goods master data or some parameters in other place?
can anyone give some supports? Thank you very much.

Hi Dave,
You can capture vendor price in billing document as a cost.
Check the following settings.
1) select the determine cost field in third party item category.
2) Billing relevance F
3) check the VPRS condition type in pricing procedure. It will come after total amount.
VPRS statistical
Subtotal = B
Requirement = 4
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system will take VPRS value from material master in sales order level. E.g 300 USD. ( In billing level only system copies vendor price as a cost )
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Create a purchase order ME21N with reference to PR( take the PR number from Sales order)
In purchase order maintain price in item conditions tab E.g 320 USD.
Goods receipt MIGO
Vendor invoice MIRO
Now create a Billing document with reference to sales order number.
Here system takes VPRS cost 320 USD(PO price) instead of 300 USD which we maintained in Material master.
Regards,
Chandra

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While doing Third party process, at GR (w.r.t. inbound delivery) the following message appears Purchase order 4500000087 has no items and stops creating GR. But the P.O has the Item. Do have any clue?
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Hi Hariharan,
In standard third party process you won't get the goods physically they are delivered by your vendor directly to your customer. In this process there's no meaning of creating inbound delivery I guess...
You can do statistical goods receipt ('ghost GR' as it was called by someone in SD forum) but even this GR isn't a must (it's based on your invoicing scenario).
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GR in Third Party Process

Friends
I read threads regarding Third Party Process but it made me more confused. Jus want some clarification.
1.Does GR take place in third party process or not and if not then how can we make it happen.
2.We want customer invoice to be created before MIRO. Can we do it. If yes then how.

Hi,
1) There are two types of Third Party Processes: -
a) Third Party Process without Shipping Notification
b) Third Party Process with Shipping Notification.
Third Party Process without Shipping Notification
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. The standard sales order automatically creates a purchase requisition for the materials to be delivered by the third-party vendor.
The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document can only be created after entering the invoice from the vendor.
Process flow: Third party Sales Order --> Convert purchase requisitions to purchase order --> Approval of purchase orders --> Invoice verification --> Billing
Third Party Process with Shipping Notification
For this process, the vendor sends a shipping notification. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document is only possible after entering the invoice from the vendor.
The vendor then sends a shipping notification. After that a statistical goods receipt is posted. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document can only be created after entering the invoice from the vendor.
Process flow: Third Party Sales Order --> Convert Purchase Requisitions to Purchase Order --> Approval of Purchase Orders --> Post Statistical Goods Receipt --> Invoice verification --> Billing
So, technically the 3rd Party Sales w/o SN is commonly used - whereby no GR is required. GI and GR process is between the vendor and the customer in the Sales Order. Once customer confirmed received, only then there will be incoming invoice from the Vendor, which then MIRO and Billing follows..
2. Standard SAP practice.. it is recommended to perform MIRO before Billing, as the vendor has to advice us that our customer has received the goods of the quantity ordered, which only then we can bill the customer according to the quantity received by the customer.
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
Rgds.

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Due to government regulation (Mexico) we need to keep track on our inventory of this movement so I want to configure MIGO so the receipts are done with 101 E - Special Stock and after that a Delivery and Invoice
If I try to do this I get error MIGO057 - Movement Type 101 E is not planned, I have take a look into OMJJ
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Please check in the PO, the account assignment category should be 1, i think it is E and hence creates the error
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MIGO IN THIRD PARTY

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IF YES PROVIDETHE STEPS FOR CONFIGURATION.

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in the third party scenario there is no physical goods movement.if u want to do statistical GR
then do this configuration.
goto material management-purchasing-account assignment-maintain account assignment categories
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In Third Party order processing the value of VPRS is taken from the vendor billing document.
In billing document copying control at item level for position type TAS we have indicator F in the Billing Quantity (FKMGK)
How to setup Customizing so the system determines the cost for third-party order processing from the value of the vendor invoice plus proportional statistic conditions (for example, cash discounts or statistical freight) Now the system only includes the goods value in condition VPRS?

Hi,
In third party scenario what ever be vendor invoice value is become cost when creating billing with reference to order
Also billing type F is proper this is for what ever quantity invoiced by vendor same can be copied in customer invoice.
Process :
VA01 - Sales order (item category TAS) >> ME52N - P.R (after SO save) >> ME21N - P.O >> Vendor ship goods to our customer >> MIRO - Vendor Invoice reciept >> VF01- Customer invoice(wrt sales order)
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How can we handle Excise & taxes in case of Third party Senerio.
for both The case of Third party (with Notification & w/o notification).
Regards
Pavan

Hi
In case f third party PO's only the goods processing & delivery is differing when compred to the Standard PO process.
So all the taxes will be appluicable as you have performed for a Standard PO
The goods receipt has the same effect as a goods receipt for a purchase order with account assignment:
No stock update is made, as the goods receipt is posted to consumption
The value of the purchase order is posted to a GR/IR clearing account for the purposes of Invoice Verification.
The goods receipt can be tracked in the PO history.
You enter the invoice in the same way as an invoice for a standard purchase order.
If you posted a statistical goods receipt for the purchase order, the invoice receipt results in an offsetting entry on the GR/IR clearing account, which is cleared.
If the customer is to be billed in Sales and Distribution based on the invoice quantity specified in the vendor invoice, this quantity is used as the basis for the billing document in Sales and Distribution. The billing document can only be posted once the vendor invoice has been posted.
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Third party sale scenario: COGS not allowed as automatically posted.

Dear Gurus,
I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
When the user enters a PO with reference to PR which is in reference to SO, one error pops up which says COGS cannot be automatically posted only.
When I deselect the "Post automatically" tick, the PO can be saved.
Process we are following during third party sale process:-
1. Sales order.
2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
I have my own doubts on the statistical GR part. Can you pls. validate the same.
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Hi
Please check the steps for 3rd business process.
Sales Order:VA01
List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
Inbound Delivery:VL31N Material Receipt:MIGO
Result Recording Work list:QE51N
QM Usage Decision:QA32
Activities due for Shipping `Sales Orders, fast display` VL10A　(VL01N)
Post of Goods Issue (PGI):VL02N
Post of Goods Deliver:VLPOD
Post the Billing doc VF01 or Maintain the Billing due list-VF04
Release Billing Document for Accounting VFX3
Delivery Document list ZVL05
Edit Work list for Invoice List VF24
Output of Billing Document VF31
Customer Payment F-28
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Regards
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Hi Gurus,
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Goods Receipt was done without facig any problem material & account documents were reated----
the problem is
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Subbu

Hi Subbu,
Third party purchase is meant for material which is not dealt by you. It is ordered on you by customer and then you order back to back to a vendor to supply directly to your customer. Because there is no value addition done in that material at your premises, it does not need to come to your premises.
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