Third Party stock transfer

what is the complete flow of entries in case of third party stock tranfer?
and how does it differ once the third party stock tranfer is automated?

hI,
in the third party scenario , based upon the sale document , a PR will get generated with item category as S and will be get converted into a PO to a vendor and this vendor will supply the material to the customer specified.
Based upon the account assignment category settings wheather the statistical GR need to be done or not will be decidede.
The item category group in the material master and item category (sd) and the schedule line category in the sale document will decide the flow which are set at SPRO.
Regards,

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Third party Stock Transport Order

Hi,
We have a requirement as descibed below:
Plants A, B and C are live in SAP and belong to different company codes. The Plant B is the sales office and no production/purchasing happens at this plant. The vendor codes for Plant A & B with respective plant assignment is done and STO configuration for the procurment from Plant A to C and vice versa is set up in the system. Now, the requirement is Plant A intends to procure from plant C (in other words Plant C should deliver to Plant A) but the billing should happen from Plant B. The third party cross company sales is set up for Plant B making a cross company sales order with sales org of Plant B and production plant B for the external customer.
One of the solution is to make the Plant A as external customer of Plant B but somehow that doesn't follow the SAP Business Global Solution of the company.
Kindly advise if any solution from the procurement perspective (stock transport order) could serve the business requirement (Plant C to deliver to Plant A and billing from Plant B). Any kind of development should also be acceptable.
Thanks in Advance,

To add to what Jurgen said:
Why would a second company code be an invoicing party? The business process doesn't make sense.
Also had the Plant C been a part of the same company code of Plant A (Supplying plant), then cross company STO could have easily mapped the scenario, by giving the Plant C as the invoicing party (PI) in the partner function of Plant A.

Third-party item in stock transfer order

We have the following situation:
The company A receives a sales order from a external customer. The
company A buys the goods to the company B (the company B is an
intercompany vendor).The company B has to send the goods to the
external customer directly. Company A invoices to the external customer
and company B invoices to company A.
It's a triangular deal, but when we try to create a purchase order with
a third-party item for an intercompany vendor, the system show the
following message: "Third-party not defined in the case of vendor with
plant assignment.
Are there other solutions ?

A third party sales order creates a purchase requisition to be procured from an external vendor.
Procurement from an internal vendor (has plant assignment) can only be done with item category U.
The field item category in the purchase requistion is S in case of 3rd party business.
The field item category in the purchase requistion is U in case of stock transfer business.
It is techically not possible that this field has both S and U at the same time.
Further a U requisition does not make sense for 3rd party, as the nature of the stock transfer is to move goods between 2 locations, but in 3rd party business you ask a vendor to send goods to a customer directly. this means you never receive this goods in the other plant, hence you would never release the stock from transit stock.
An alternative could be to create an extra vendor master for you plant B, that is not linked to a plant, and should only be used for this 3rd party business. Discuss this with your finance guys, usually they dont want this.
Alternative you create a standard order at plant A and create a STO to get the material virtually from plant B to plant A. this adds work, and does not really reflect the real chain. Often a source for errors.
Alternative you directly create the order as standard order in plant B. Often the sales guys dont want it this way. they still thinking in silos.With SAP there is certainly some change and difference to the old fashioned thinking

Inter-Company Sales v/s Inter-Company Stock Transfer v/s Third Party Sales

Hi, I understand the basic business processes between Inter-Company Sales, Inter-Company Stock Transfer and Third Party Sales.
The Inter-Company Sales is sales process between two companies having different company codes. A customer orders an item to Company A which can't be delivered by Company A, so Company A generates PO to Company B which supplies the item to Company A and finally Company A delivers it to Customer.
The Inter-Company Stock Transfer is stock transfer from one plant to another where the plants belong to two different company codes. Now all Inter-Company Sales process covers Inter-Company Stock Transfer process.
Third Party Sales process is process where a customer orders an item to Company A but Company A ca't deliver the item to the customer. So Company A generates a PO to Company B which in turn directly delivers the item to customer. After the goods receipt verification at customer end Company A pays to Company B.
Now looking at the these basic process steps I just want to know what is the basic difference between Inter-Company Sales and Inter-Company Stock Transfer ? Is this something that when there is a need to deliver an item to the customer and not available in that company, the Inter-Company Sales takes place but when there is no customer order but the companies want to maintain stock, the Inter-Company Stock Transfer takes place ? Please clarify based on my above understanding.

Hi
I will explain you with example
Say there are 2 org structures
Company code 1000 sales org 1000 and DC 10 and division is 00 and plant 1000
Company code 2000 sales org 2000 and DC 20 and division is 00 and plant 2000
Now A customer Say X lies in sales area 1000,10,00 and a sales order is created for a material ABCD for this customer X in sales area 1000,10,00
Now if the plant 2000 supplies this material ABCD for this order to the customer X in sales area 1000,10,00 then it is intercompany sales
IF the plant 2000 transfers the stock to plant 1000 ands (then if the plant 1000 supplies to this sales order for customer X) then it is intercompany STO
If the material is supplied from a external vendor directly to the customer X without involving your plants then it is third party sales
Now all Inter-Company Sales process covers Inter-Company Stock Transfer process
No not at all
Both are entirely different
Inter-Company Stock Transfer process doesnot involve Inter-Company sales
Similarly Inter-Company sales does not involve Inter-Company Stock Transfer process both are different
Third party means it is an external vendor not your other company code
All three are different
If a plant belonging to one company code directly makes a delivery for a customer to the sales order created in another company code then it is intercompany sales
the movement of stocks between plants of 2 different company codes is inter company STO
Regards
Raja

Procurement cycle in third party order and stock transport order.

please provide me in steps the procurement cycle in third party order and stock transport order.

Hi,
STO Process: -
1.Create a vendor for the company code of receiving plant, using account group :0007 using T-Code XK01.
2. Assign this vendor to Delivering plant
Go to XK02 >Purchasing view>Extras>Add. Purchasing data>Plant
3. Create internal customer with the sales area of the vendor. Go To XD01
4. In Pricing procedure determination relevant to STO, assign document Pricing Procedure and customer pricing procedure appropriate for STO to get the pricing in the invoice.
5. Maintain condition records for the relevant pricing condition.
6. Some more setting for STO: Go to MM> Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > define shipping data for plants > Go to Receiving plant >assign customer here & Supplying SA (for billing) to Receiving plant here
7. Go to MM > Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > define shipping data for plants > Go to Supplying plant and assign the sales area of receiving plant.
8. Go to MM > Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > assign delivery Type & Checking rule
Assign the delivery type to document type. In this case, Delivery type NLCC is assigned to Document type NB
9. Go to MM> Purchasing > Purchase Order > Set up STO > Assign document Type, One step Procedure, Under delivery tolerance
Assign the document type NB to supplying plant and receiving plant
10. After all settings , Create the STO using T-Code:ME21N and maintain pricing conditions of freight and Save.
11. Create Delivery :VL10G
Click on the Background Button after selecting line item
A message is flashed : See log for information> next Click on Log for delivery creation Button >click on line item>click on document button to get Delivery document No
12. Picking, PGI:VL02N
13. Billing:VF01
Save the document and its done
14. J1IIN - Outgoing Excise Invoice
15. MIGO - Goods Receipt against outbound Delivery
16. J1IEX - Capture & Post Excise Invoice
Pricing configuration for STO: -
In SPRO > MM > Purchasing > Conditions > Define Price Determination Process > Define Schema Determination > Determine Schema for Stock Transport Orders > Here assign Calculation Schema "RM2000" i.e. Stock Transfer Document to Schema Grp Pur. Org, STO Type (For e.g. UB) and Supplying Plant.
Calculation Schema "RM2000" has condition type P101 which will pick up the MAP of supplying plant automatically during creation of STO in ME21N ("Conditions" Tab).
You can create new freight / delivery cost conditions in M/06 and assign in pricing procedure "RM2000" in M/08 and also assign the Accrual Key to this and do the Account Determination for this Accrual Key in OBYC
At the time of PGI, following accounting entry will get generated;
Stock A/c - Dr - 110 INR (Receiving Plant)
Stock A/c - Cr - 100 INR (Supplying Plant)
Freight Clearing A/c - Cr - 10 INR (Supplying Plant)
Third Party Process Flow: -
1) MM01 - General Item category Group should be BANS in basic view of material master.
2) VA01 - Creation of sales order with VA01 transaction in SD module
3) When sales order is created system automatically creates a PR for the material with item category as "S"--> Third Party Item
4) ME21N - Directly PO with item category as "S" and delivery address as customer address
5) MIGO - Statistical GR by MM ( When it is made goods are received and delivered)
6) MIRO - Invoice by MM for vendor
7) VF01 - Billing by SD on Customers

THird Party PO Scenario - GR into Customer Consignment Stock

HI,
In a Third party scenario, is there any possible way to post the GR into Customer consignment stock ?!
In std SAP,
PR is generated from Sales order and the PO is created w.r.to the PR.
PR & PO will have the acct assignment ( sales order) and item category (third party).
during GR, we can't see the stock in the system. because the GR is statistical one since the stock is directly deliverd at customer place.
But in the current world in our case,
the stock is delivered in an external warehouse, from where the goods will be delivered to customer at a later point.
we want to track the stock in external warehouse. so, we want to have this as the "customer consignment stock". ( we may have this as a SLOC and from there we can transfer to customer consignment stock. but there will not be any link for the sales order and this customer consignment stock and moreover during GR we are not updating the stock...)
SO here is the question,
how can we update the stock during GR for Third party order( as far as I know, we can't define new item category).
If we are updating the stock during GR for 3rd party, then we may find a way to post it to the customer consignment....
Pls share your ideas..thanks.

Third Party Consignment? Anyone have an answer? I have the same requirement

To create a stock transport order and third party order

please explain steps to create a stock transport order and third party order with transaction code what are the pre-requisite. related to MM?

First you need a supplying plant. stock ready to transfer for a matetrial which should be created/extended at both the suppling and receiving plants.
The order type is UB
rest of the things are Pur org, Pur Grp, Company Code etc...
The most important part is Vender has been replaced by supplying plant.

Third party transfer

We have the Vendor in Japan who ships the Finished product to Canada from Japan. PO is raised from US loaction.
This is third party transfer.
So somebody provide me with configuration settings and what will be process flow
Thx

HI
Process Flow for Third party process with SD-MM Integration
Customiztion requires is
1) Defining the Purchasing org,Purchasing group,
2) Assign the Purchase org to company code
3) Assign Purchase org to plant,
Material type used should be Trading goods -- HAWA
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material with Material Type as "Trading Goods" & Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Sales Order type
4. Sale order is created and in the background a PR is generated
Note down the PR number along with Sale order no
5. With reference to PR a PO is created (ME21N).
PO will be sent to the Vendor with delivery address as your Customer.
5.5) You cannot view the PR. Becoz it was created with schedule line category of sales order CS which was maintained in VOV6 and that
is not your company's or plant's PR.
6. Vendor delivers the goods to the Customer and raises Invoice to the Plant.
7. Goods receipt MIGO & stock update in the Plant ( Not physically)
8. MIRO for Vendor to clear the Payment
9. Create the outbound delivery for sales order
10. Post Goods issue for delivery
11. Billing for the customer
Regards
Prasanna

Stock is increased and FI entry is posted in statistical GR for third party

Hello
I was trying to activate the functionalty for statistical GR in third party but STUCK due to following issues. For enabling this functionaltity I have checked "Goods Reciept" and "GR Non-Valuated" check in "Delivery tab" of PO.
1. After creating Statistical GR through MIGO (101), stock has been posted in plant. I was expecting no movement in Stock .
2. I was hoping there should not be in FI posting but FI entry is posted through statistical GR .
We are using third party process from many years but without statistical GR. Requirement from client is to post statistical GR without FI entry and no stock should be updated. Please advise if anyone has idea on this.
FYI--We have item category TAS and schedule line category CS in customisation. Also advise if above two settings in PO are enought to turn ON the statistical GR functionality.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Arvind

Thanks AKPT for reply
As advised , pleae find enclosed screens for OMS2, PO and FI entry. FI entry might be wrong as while posting MIGO ..I was getting error "WE etnry is missing in table YFTFI_SUBST236 and I maintained some dummy GL accounts.
Regards
Arvind

Third party process with Valuated sales order stock

Hi All,
We have third party sales order process with valuated sales order stock. The problem is that in the theird party PR which is triggered directly from the sales order it determines a stock account which is assigned to the BSX key in OBYC.
But since this is third party processing as per my understanding a consumption account assigned to key GBB-VAX (since account assignmnt category is X) should get determined, so that when the GR is done against the PO a consumption posting is done in the background.
I am not able to understand if the system is determining the stock account due to the fact that it is valuated sales order stock and if so, what should happen after GR. Should we have a stock created for the material which is physically directly delivered to the customer?
Regards,
V S

Hi,
Check GBB-VKA which is defined in OME9 for your ''E'' Account Assignment Category that SAP will debit upon GR posting
Also check "X" GBB-VAX and the G/L account assignment in OBYC
The posting on GR should be debit KBS -Credit GR-IR
Thanks
Diwakar

Error message : Vendor is not an invoicing party in stock transfer PO

Dear All,
i need help on this issue
1. user create a Stock transfer PO
2. in condition he put condition but he forget to enter vendor code in condition detail.
3. GRN is done
4. after GRN he entered vendor code in the condition detail ( in the PO)
5. but at the time of MIRO user is getting error "Vendor is not an invoicing party"
Note : here it is not possible to reverse GRN.
so please guide me on this
Thanks
h shah

Hi,
Check the vendor for Fright vendor.
If fright vendor then check in MIRO --> selected planned delivery cost ... or not..
SAM

Prevent Third Party / Sales order stock for blocked vendors

Hi Experts.
We have scenarios for Third party processing and Sales order stock. We have a scenario of a fixed vendor for a material. The purchasing function frequently does block vendors for purchasing.
However, we find that this does not prevent creation of a third party / sales order stock item in the sales order and a PR is generated. It is only found during the PR --> PO conversion that the vendor is blocked at which time someone has to manually reject the line items.
Is there a way to prevent the system from being able to generate a PR for a blocked vendor ? I guess one possibility is to enhance the requirement routine for PR creation. Is there any other approach ?
Appreciate your help
Regards
Rohit Zalani

Hi
In MK05, block vendor for all Purchasing org and Select Block Function = 03 Block quot. req., order, goods receipt
If you do this setting then user will get error message that "Vendor is blocked" and "Purchase requisition could not be generated for component".

Third Party billing, stock in our possesion

Hello Guru's,
We will implement third party billing, but in our case the stock will be stored by us, not a third party company.
Also we will be purchasing the product and will be billed accordingly but... we will be billing on their behalf.
Don't ask me what is the reason at a user level, I guess it's a branding issue.
The point is, do you think what follows will be a good way to implement the slution?:
User's requirement:
We Store the product, we are billed for it, when we sell it it has to be billed on a different bill than any other regular products, on the bill it must show "billed on behalf of XXX company".
Solution:
We add a whole new sales circuit, with new sale document types: anyway the bill will only contain third party materials, it won't contain positions for our own products.
We restrict the third party product at a MM master records so it's not possible to make documents for own AND third party materials, even billing.
Advises? Ideas? Questions?
Do you think this is a good solution for the scenario, taking in account it will not be the regular third party sales process?
Thank you in advance my guru's!
Regards,
Lionel.

Lionel
The moot point is ' Is it your company's sale?' and 'should this sale be counted into your company's income or not?'. I am guessing it is not (your income).
You are buying it, you are paying for it ( i am assuming because you said 'we are billed for it'), you are storing it and selling it, but only the invoice must show "billed on behalf of XXX company".
If it is not your company (code) income, then I suggest you handle it as Inter-company business. Add a co code, Sales area, plant for the comany on whose behalf you are billing. Let that company receive the order from customer with your plant as delivering plant , then you send the material to customer. Bill them for inter-company transaction and let them bill the ultimate customer. You can use condition type PI01 and make it as close to zero as possible to avoid any real charge to them for the material. Standard Intercompany Sales Processing .
As you rightly mentioned also need a material master data field like material group or status so that you don't sell this from your comapny.
If it is your income and you want just to indicate differently ( I doubt if it is legal), then you just use standard text to print " "billed on behalf of XXX company".
Hope this helps and others will pitch in too.

Stock not updating after doing MIGO (gr) for third party sales

i am doing third party sales, after creating PO with PR and updating stock through Migo , i am not able find the stock, but i can see through MB51 only , i am see the stock through MMBE or MB52

Dear friend
Hope you are clear about third party process
In third party process vndor supplies the goods directly to customer and the goods does not come to our premises at all
In many of the scenarios that i have seen there is no MIGO itself done
To have MIGO is purely optional in third party
I am enclosing here with the threads which were discussed on the same
Forum post in ERP - Sales and Distribution (SD) General: MIGO- why we do it in third party sales?
MIGO- why we do it in third party sales?
Forum post in ERP - Sales and Distribution (SD) General: Why MIGO is required in thirdparty scenarion?
Why MIGO is required in thirdparty scenarion?
The stock updation after MIGO is posted directly to consumption account and we dont keep the stock
So it is not seen in MMBE or MB52 (which is a physical inventory orstock report)
The stock is not there? How can you see that ?
If still you want to see the stocks this is entirely against business logics and consult with your MM and FI colleagues (as this query is their area of operation)
If the third party process is happening with item category TAB then stock updation will take place after MIGO and you can see the same in MMBE/MB52
If not happening means there is some customization error with the PO from MM side Check with MM colleague
Make sure if the item category is TAB then schedule line category is CB
In VOV6 for schedulle line category CB
NB is the order type
0 is the item category
E is the account assignment category
Regards
Raja

Monitoring stock at Third-party Manufacturers

Hi,
We provide our third-party manufacturers with stock such as packaging. As such we keep stock at their warehouses as well as some safety stock at our own warehouses. However we are finding it difficult to keep track of their use of our packaging material.When we place a purchase order with them, we discover that they do not have any packaging supplies and have to air-freight packaging to them at a great cost.
How can we use SAP B1 to help us with this?
Should we keep track of packaging at all our Third-Party Manufacturers by creating packaging Item Masters and monitoring their levels at different warehouses?
Do we create a Bill of Materials which includes the packaging materials which would automatically issue stock from their warehouses?
Do we issue a Purchase Order or a Production Order in this instance? In the past we only issue Purchase Orders to them. It seems an overkill to issue a Production Order to keep track of just the packaging at a Third-Party Warehouse?
Any help to address this issue would be much appreciated.
thank you,
JK

Hi,
Welcome you post on the forum.
A question to you: are those packaging materials belong to you? If not, what incentive do you get to track the detail usage?
Thanks,
Gordon

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