This forum will be renamed "Solaris 11 for Sysadmins"

We won't remove the Solaris 11 Express discussions, we'll just start adding Solaris 11 discussions.
Please try to specify whether your question applies to Solaris 11 Express or Solaris 11.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Rick
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/systems/index.html
Edited by: rickramsey on Nov 2, 2011 10:19 AM

We had a delay in implementing this change, but it is still our intention to shut this forum down in favor of the Java 3D forum on java.net. We hope to do this within the next two weeks or so.
Please migrate to the java.net forum by following the above instructions before that time. Let me know if you have any questions.
Kevin Rushforth
Java 3D Team
Sun Microsystems

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    We won't remove the Solaris 11 Express discussions, we'll just start adding Solaris 11 discussions.
    Please try to specify whether your question applies to Solaris 11 Express or Solaris 11.
    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Rick
    http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/systems/index.html

    We had a delay in implementing this change, but it is still our intention to shut this forum down in favor of the Java 3D forum on java.net. We hope to do this within the next two weeks or so.
    Please migrate to the java.net forum by following the above instructions before that time. Let me know if you have any questions.
    Kevin Rushforth
    Java 3D Team
    Sun Microsystems

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  • To Adobe : Please add point system to this  forum like SAP forum

    Adding point system to this forum will encourage and
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  • This Forum to Mege Next Week with Enterprise SOA!

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  • Does anyone know if there is a plan to make this forum a better product?

    there are quite a few problems with the structure of this forum.
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    this is not a criticism of the moderators who take the time to help others but it does newed to have a method of getting Apple's attention when there is no solution/approach to a serious product defficiency.
    advisng users to use the Apple support link is like getting close to a black hole. 

    I am sure they are always looking for ways to improve. The current "Apple Support Communities" replaced the former "Apple Discussions" about a year ago, there were a number of changes that came with it, some good, some not so good, IMHO. About a week or two ago they made some other changes, the most visual was getting an email when a post is marked as solving the question or being helpful. Like any change, some people liked it, some didn't. But I am certain they are looking to make this forum a better product.

  • How to make this forum better?

    Hi friends
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    Can you share your inputs about this subject, on how I could create a good announcement to help new users to use it better?
    Thank you very much
    Best Regards
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    Message was edited by: Gustavo Del Vechio

    Carlos
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    Other unecessary widgets was taken off from the avaliable area of the page.
    Don't you see it in your side?
    Best Regards
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  • IMPORTANT MESSAGE: THIS FORUM HAS MOVED TO THE JDEVELOPER FORUM

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  • [Announcement] OC4J WS forum will be closed in June

    Hello OC4J WS users,
    As more and more OC4J customers are upgrading to WebLogic, this forum will be closed in June. You can start posting OC4J web service related questions on "OC4J" forum at OC4J OC4J forum has a bigger audience who are actively monitoring and responding to queries.
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