This or Pro Tools MP?

This mainly goes out to users of both Pro Tools M-Powered and Logic Express. I'm wanting to upgrade from GB. I'm leaning towards PTMP because it's cheaper and the plug-ins. But I've heard it doesn't work very well with OS X 10.4.9.
I've played around with Logic Express and I like it, but I'm unsure of what kind of plug-ins are available (ie RTAS, VST, AU, et cetera).
There's not much for reviews online, just trying to get a feel for if people prefer one over the other, if so why? Thanks!
iMac (PowerPC) Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hey fan, welcome to the forum.
I am both a PT user and a Logic user. I stay away from PT unless i HAVE to work in it.
In terms of plugins, MPowered doesn't hold a torch to Logic. Logic uses AU plugins. Its included suite of plugins are almost unanimously regarded in the industry to be the best suite of plugins included with a DAW. I don't use PTMP, I use LE, and i've used it extensively and the plugins don't come anywhere near Logic's plugins. The most important plugins in any DAW in my opinion - the EQ's and compressors - Logic's sound warmer and do much more for you sound than any plugins in the included PT suite.
With upgrading plugins, you can get almost any plugin for Logic that you can for PTMP - except RTAS of course, that's pro tools proprietary format. Anything you want in RTAS you can find a comparable (or most of the time, better) or identical version in AU.
The advantage to having PT is that you learn PT. Even then, I would strongly recommend you get a Pro Tools LE system over an MPowered system any day. M-Audio gear is faulty and of poor quality by nature. Most anyone you talk to around here will strongly recommend staying away from M-audio stuff.
So. . . I'd go with Logic Express. . . but if you really want to go the Pro Tools route - go PTLE. . . PLEASE don't go MPowered.

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