Thought of functional consultant Vs abap
Dear All,
I am techno functional consultant. I thought and very funny sometimes, but its bad habit to laugh on anyone.
Thought of Functional consultant: I have requirement of report X in which when user create PO--->make GR> take print then it should show on report. sometime they tell only process on paper or screen shot only.
Thought of technical consultant (ABAPer): I don't know how to create PO, once they create PO where data flow, how many table involved, what are triggering point; next process trigger after which process finished.
What you people feels?
Regards
Sanjeet Kumar
Hi Sanjeet,
I for one dislike these nonpredicative occupational titles, because they invoke pigeonholding. At that, I can't claim to be completely free of stereotypical thinking, but I'm trying to see the bigger picture.
IMHO it all depends on what you actually do that defines you, not the other way around.
Taking myself for an example, on paper I'm an Application Developer. Thus, most people automatically think "Look that fellow is an "ABAPer", he programs in "ABAP 'n Stuff!" and that's about it and that kind of upsets me, because, what I actually do is:
Analyzing and Optimizing Business Processes (Functional Consultant?)
Creating Main and Detailed Concepts including all kinds of Analyses concerning the IT-Infrastructure, Risks, Consequences, etc. (Solution Architect?)
Application Design (Architectual Pattern, User Interface) (Application Designer?)
Implementation of the Design with all kinds of different techniques including "normal" programming (Application Developer?, Technical Consultant?, <include numerous high-sounding occupational titles for each particular technique>)
Maintenance / Scaling (Third Level Support?)
So, maybe, I should start calling myself Super-Duper Techno Functional Solution Architect Supporter or something like that. But would that be any better or any more descriptive? :-/
Cheers, Lukas
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Gain experience and be open-minded. It's pretty much the only way to improve your problem solving and thus your "functional" skills.
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I don't think it can be expressed that vastly. I would personally always choose someone with a technical background over the one who talks about "Business" and essentially doesn't really know what he's talking about...
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I am thorughout from the Commerce background, no technicalbackground at all...
How should I start learning ABAP?
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I am interested in familiar with some ABAP knowledge as a Functional consultant.
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Reprots
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Dictionary
http://sapabap.iespana.es/sapabap/manuales/learnabap/
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/41341147041806e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/cf/21eb6e446011d189700000e8322d00/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/cf/21ea31446011d189700000e8322d00/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCDWBDIC/BCDWBDIC.pdf
ABAP objects
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http://www.sapgenie.com/abap/OO/
http://www.futureobjects.de/content/intro_oo_e.html
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http://esnips.com/doc/64d4eccb-e09b-48e1-9be9-e2818d73f074/faqss.pdf
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http://esnips.com/doc/fced4d36-ba52-4df9-ab35-b3d194830bbf/symbols-in-scripts.pdf
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Check these step-by-step links
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/uuid/ccab6730-0501-0010-ee84-de050a6cc287
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You can scrub the report for names cof company and other personal info, i just want to see what is essential and what is not essential and the presentation.
Please you can send to my email [email protected]
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amkHi,
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I need to know Functional Consultant role in the Interface (From/To SAP).
I got one requirement in my client who Implememted SAP except one segment which is using third party software for Customer Invoice (Service Revenue)means other than SAP for this segment cleint does not want implement SAP and they are happy with current software.
They are planning to Interface between from Thired Party to SAP, they want show total consolidated revenue based on this. I already discussed with Technical (ABAP) and Business Team for this requirement.
Please can any funtional consultant help how to start and should I get any SAP Help or related documents or any link.
Please do the needful in this regard and waiting for your favourable reply.
Thanks in advace.
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2) What is the relation between eSOA and ECC6.0?
3) What is the Scope/Role for Functional Consultants in eSOA?
4) What I have to learn in eSOA?
5) How it is useful for Functional Consultant?
6) How it is useful for Customers?
7) How much time it will take to learn eSOA?
8) Where can get the Material?
9) What all technologies I have to learn before I learn to eSOA?
I am working as a SAP HR Consultant. If I want to learn eSOA what are the pre-requisites.
I donu2019t know anything eSOA.
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See the answers below
> 1) Does eSOA is a tool, application or module?
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> 2) What is the relation between eSOA and ECC6.0?
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> 3) What is the Scope/Role for Functional Consultants in eSOA?
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> 4) What I have to learn in eSOA?
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> 5) How it is useful for Functional Consultant?
see above
> 6) How it is useful for Customers?
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> 7) How much time it will take to learn eSOA?
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> 8) Where can get the Material?
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Hi Partners,
Please let me know if you have suitable Consultants for SAP SUS Techno Functional requirement.
Please Send your resumes to me.
Title: SAP SUS Techno Functional Consultant.
Location: PHX, AZ
Duration: 6 +months
Job Description for SAP SUS:
Ø Must have Techno-functional Experience in SAP SUS and ROS.
Ø Ability to Design, configure, develop custom requirements and test SUS with ECC and/or SRM Integration.
Ø Experience in Vendor On-boarding, Collaboration and Vendor Integration processes.
Ø Knowledgeable in SAP SRM, PI/XI.
Ø Knowledgeable in ABAP, BSP.
Ø Collaboratively within the team environment
Ø Interact daily with the client, project team, and senior management staff
Any SRM cons with spl on SUS will be able to do the job
Thanks
Srikanth kumar.VHi,
Good morning and greetings,
Wishing you a very Happy New Year 2007
Considering your experience, it is better to get into SAP as the market is growing a lot...eventhough you have functional experience, in order to materialize with Functional Consulting, you will have to undergo classes...SAP themselves conduct classes using various business partners and you can join them to understand the configuration bit...For pursuing your goal, first step would be to join a class on understanding the indepth knowledge on SAP...Since the market requires lot of consultant, but still the requirement is majorly for expereinced consultants and for achieving that you will have to work hard to gain that experience in SAP...At the time of doing the course please ensure that you keep continuing with your existing job.
Hope this meets your requirement.
Please reward points if found useful
Thanking you
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Role of SD Techno-Functional consultant.
Hello all,
Am an ABAPer with one and half years of experience and have an opportunity to learn SD.
Can somebody tell me What exact role i will be performing as a technofunctional and does it make sence markewise(i mean does it add value to salary).
Please explain with some example.
Thanks.
Edited by: sandeep deshpande on Apr 20, 2008 7:18 PMHi Seema,
The Basic responsibility of a CRM Functional Consultant are
1. Understand the Clients Business Process
2. Mapping the Business Process with SAP CRM Process
3. Collecting the requirements of the client
4. Analyzing the requirements with respect to SAP CRM
5. Configuring the SAP CRM system according to clients requirement.
6. Co-ordinating with technical tem members to reach the technical requirements.
Precisely as a Functional Consultant, one has to interact with the client very often to map the business requirements with SAP CRM business Process.
Hope I have answered you.
Please reward points if it helps.
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Johnny. -
Role & responsibilities for SD functional consultant
Hi
friends,
iam sravan,
applying 2+yrs of exp as a sd functional consultant.
i want to put 10 months of exp for impementation and rest of the
yrs putting as a support. is it ok, otherwise plez suggest me.
can u tell me the role and responsibilities for implemetation
and support, bcoz iam putting two projects so i have to put
role & responsibilities both are should be different.
plez send me as soon as possible...................Hi Sravan,
Types of Consultants:
The most common question being asked in interviews is ' What are your roles and responsibilities?'.
Before answering the above question, let me explain the difference between Functional consultant and
Technical consultant.
Roles and responsibilities differ from functional consultant to Technical consultant.
<b>Functional Consultant:</b>
Functional consultants are responsible for designing the SAP implementation solution based on the
requirements of your company.
Functional consultants are business process experts.
Functional consultants normally use their process knowledge to calculate the impact of the SAP
implementation on the company's processes.
Functional consultants are thus concerned with SAP functions and processes that will generate the data
and output for business.
Functional consultants interact with end users of the company to gather requirements and based on the
requirements they customize the SAP implementation.
<b>Technical Consultant:</b>
Technical consultants are experts in information technology.
Technical consultants normally assist in configuration of the SAP R3 installation. In many SAP
implementations, technical consultants help in designing interfaces and customizations in R3. Finally, the
SAP R3 technical consultants would be responsible for migration of data from the legacy system to the new
SAP ERP implementation.
Here i will discuss major roles and responsibilities of a technical consultant:
1) Designing technical specification by looking at the functinal specification you have recieved.
Usually senior developers having 3 years or more than 3 years of experience involves in preparing technical
specifications.
2) Developing objects using ABAP workbench tools. That may be a report program or an on-line program or a
custom table.
Remember the development work starts after the technical specification is approved by your team leader.
3) Preparing the Unit test case document.
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4) Peer Review
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5) Working on Problem Tickets
If you are working in a support project, you should solve the tickets assigned to you. Tickets are nothing but
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Suggestion/help; want to become Techno Functional Consultant
I'm a SD Consltant, want to become Techno functional Cnt. please help me. is it ok to learn ABAP.
please guide me, what r the topics of ABAP I'd learn and from where I should start. which can be helpful to me to get it done.
Badly need of that, please help
Thanks
SaratYes, you can become a techno functional consultant.
You can start by learning Debugging. That is a very important tool. And being a functional consultant it will be a boon for you. And I think this is the only thing you need to learn as far as ABAP is concerned.
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Hi,
I have about 15 months of SAP ABAP experience. I have previously worked in the modules of MM, PP, SD and a bit of IS-U. This is for the first time that I am working in SAP HR. Currently I am thinking of shifting my career in SAP HR as a Functional Consultant. I have been working in SAP HR for about 3 weeks as a Technical Consultant.
Please let me know the following:
- How can I get proper Functional Knowledge ? Do i need to do a course or reading books and online SAP HELP Documentation will help ?
- How to proceed step by step in getting the knowledge of the above ?
- From where will I get all the necessary Information ?
- Will I settle for Techno Functional Consultant or will I move to Full Functional Domain ?
- How long will it take for me to get a Functional Consultant Expert in SAP HR ?
Thanks a lot for any one who will help me with the above questions.
Samantak ChatterjeeMy Dear SAP Experts
Please go through issue which is mentioned below and share your ideas with me on this.
Issue
There is a major issue with my Client in PY.
The Issue is as follows
One EE worked for 3 months in India i.e 01.07.2005 to 30.09.2005.
And after this period he has shifted to oversees for 1 year i.e from 01.11.2005 to 31.10.2006.
Later he has come back to Indian in the last month.i.e Nov 2006.
So now my client wants to run the PY for only last month with the previous PY Area.
But when i tried to run the PY for The Nov 2006 then it started running from last year that is 01.10.2005.
How to delimit the the period when the ee was in onsite.
My client does not want to run the PY for the duration for which he was in to Foreign.
So how should I deal with this kind of case?
Please experts
Can any one through a light on this.
Desperately I need your help on this.
Thanks & Regards
Padma K
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Do MacBook Pro with Retina Display have a DSL slot?
Hello their, I'd like to ask if the new MacBook Pro with Retina Display can be connected to Internet through a DSL wire. Suppose I don't have wireless, how am gonna connect to the Internet? Thanks