Thread count setting in WLS 7
Hello,
I would like to know if I can allocate a set of 'n' threads for a particular
business process in WLS 7.0. In WLS 5.1 there used to be threads for JMS, servlets
and the execute threads. Is it possible to achieve something similar in WLS 7
Thanks,
Aswin.
Hello Aswin,
Refer to the following link for more information regarding the creation of execute
queues:
http://edocs.bea.com/wls/docs70/ConsoleHelp/domain_executequeue_config.html
Best regards,
Ryan LeCompte
[email protected]
http://www.louisiana.edu/~rml7669
"Aswin Dinakar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
Hello,
I would like to know if I can allocate a set of 'n' threads for
a particular
business process in WLS 7.0. In WLS 5.1 there used to be threads for
JMS, servlets
and the execute threads. Is it possible to achieve something similar
in WLS 7
Thanks,
Aswin.
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<invocation-scheme>
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========================================================================
Dump Files
Stat Count
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Total Active ExecuteThread 25 18 31 119 138 331
Total Waiting thread among Active ExecuteThread and with respect to Coherence related locks 22 15 28 116 134 315
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3. Locks waiting by IMPI_IMPU_DAO.get_all_IMPU_of_IMSU_with_User_State(IMPI_IMPU_DAO.java:201) 40 DistributedCache$GetRequest$Poll
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I am sorry that we could not find the specific things to monitor this issuer directly, because there are many reason which caused it. For example: virus, big size attachment in queue, hardware performance and so on. We could refer to the following steps
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We could run SDP on Exchange server and send it to
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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/askie/archive/2012/05/22/introduction-to-support-diagnostics-platform-sdp.aspx
We could use tools and logs to analysis if there are anything wrong or abnormal on Exchange server 2013. our bottle neck is disk IO latency, store.exe do require some CPU usage, but if our disk IO speed can keep in a normal range, the
CPU usage will be smaller. Exchange is highly rely on disk IO performance because it need lots of IO operation regarding to transaction log and database file. If Disk IO has a high latency, I will definitely impact store.exe, if it`s getting seriously sometimes
it may cause store.exe no response.
We could refer to the following link:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee832791(v=exchg.141).aspx
If there are any questions regarding this issue, please be free to let me know.
Best Regard,
Jim
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