Three-Way Color Correction in Adobe Premiere Elements 13?

Does Adobe Premiere Elements 13 have the Three-Way Color Correction feature, as found in past versions? Really important.

Phil-SC
What computer operating system is your Premiere Elements 13 running on?
In Premiere Elements 12 or 13 Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit
The short answer is Yes. See fx Effect/Color Correction/Three-Way Color Correction.
The longer answer is in the form of the following 3 screenshots displaying a side by side comparison of the 12 and 13 settings area in Applied Effects/Applied Effects Palette/Three-Way Color Correction Panel expanded
Midtones
Premiere Elements 12 on left, Premiere Elements 13 on right
Highlights
Premiere Elements 12 on left, Premiere Elements 13 on right
Shadows
Premiere Elements 12 on left, Premiere Elements 13 on right
I have not done a side by side comparison of results from the two versions, but they have the same controls and
options as you can see.
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