Thumbnail inconsistencies

Hi,
So, I'm still kinda new-ish to the whole Mac thing, and I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting some images' thumbnails appearing as the actual image itself, while others just as a generic thumbnail.
Right now, for instance, I've got two jpg's on my desktop, side by side, one showing the picture on the tumbnail and one not. I'm probably just missing something that's really simple, but any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Apple has always had a dual fork file system--every file can have both a data fork and a resource fork. The Mac OS can read things that are stored in the resource fork, such as a custom icon, the kind of file it is, what program created it, and many other things as well (that's why Macs didn't need the three letter extension in file names in order to correctly open a file). Many graphics programs will create a custom thumbnail which is stored in the resource fork and autmatically displayed by the Finder, whether you have the View option set to show icon preview or not. Additionally, the Finder will draw an icon for graphics files that do not have a custom thumb in the resource fork, using the information in the data fork, if you do enable the "show icon preview" option in View->Show View Options. This process, especially for a folder full of large files, is considerably slower, so most graphics pros set their programs to create a custom thumbnail. Then the Finder just has to display what is already there.
Resource forks are stripped off by Internet servers--so if you have a jpeg with a custom thumbnail and upload it to your web site, then a user comes along and downloads the jpeg to their desktop, it will show a generic jpeg icon, unless they have enabled the view option to have the Finder draw an icon. If the pix are in a zip file, which is downloaded and unzipped, the resource fork will be preserved and the thumb will show regardless of the view option setting. Unless you understand what is going on it can all be VERY confusing!
Francine
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