Thumbnails in reverse order in Icon view

When I look at a folder full of picture thumbnails in Finder, in Icon view, and select Keep Arranged by Date Modified, or Date Created, they appear in the reverse order, with the most recent at the top. In the other views (list, cover flow etc.) they appear in the order I want them, with the most recent at the bottom. How can I correct this?
Richard

Setting 'Arrange by date order' toggles between oldest and newest first in List and Cover flow view on mine.
Icon view and column view don't change from newest first.
Arrange by name toggles on list and cover flow view too..
S.

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The following Knowledge Base article shows how to sort in Finder:
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I gotcha. Then arranging by Name would give me the a sort order from oldest to newest. That would be a workaround, and a clever one at that - thanks. The only problem for me is when I need all the space for a long document name. Also, I guess, creating more than one document on the same day would require an extra character...
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