Thunderbird and passwords at startup

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Thunderbird:24.0
I have three accounts in Thunderbird.
I have for all accounts:
Check for new messages at startup - Ticked
Check for new messages every 10 minutes - Ticked
In Preferences --> Passwords I have no saved passwords and I DON'T Use a master password.
Add Ons Installed:
FireTray - 0.4.6
Lightning - 2.6
When I start Thunderbird it starts OK and sits in the "systray" but never asks me for a password for my accounts. As an experiment I've left it there untouched for a couple of hours and it never asks for password (and does not recieve any email), so the check for new messages at startup and check for new messages every ... is not working.
I have to click on each account individually and "Get Mail" it then asks for the password of that account and all works as it should (i.e. it checks for messages every 10 minutes and downloads messages when recieved).
Any ideas?
Thanks

Have you upgraded OB to the 3.4.2? I ask this because in the newer version you put only
exec openbox-session
and in ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh all your programs (without exec openbox at the end obviously). Openbox will automatically look for the autostart.sh file and execute all it finds in.
Getting to work the "all in xinitrc" method it's a bit tricky
EDIT: I just tried starting tint with autostart.sh and it opened but closed itself immediately after.
Last edited by onearm (2007-06-24 11:26:35)

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