Thunderbolt 2 devices on a Thunderbolt 1 Macbook, possible?

Can I connect Thunderbolt 2 Devices (e.g. an external RAID array) to a Thunderbolt 1 port on my Macbook Pro? I want to get a new Thunderbolt 2 RAID array like this one that is relatively future proof for the new MacPro "tower." However, I would also like to be able to connect my early 2013 Macbook Pro to the array but it only has Thunderbolt 1. Is this possible or do I need to get a Thunderbolt 1 RAID Array?
Sub question: Will the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire Adapter work for a Thunderbolt 2 device? I need to dump a few Terrabytes of footage off my old MacPro tower.
Thanks in advance!

Might be best to ask in the iPhone forum. From what I've heard most people don't have a problem but some do.
If you have a 15"/17" Powerbook you could investigate the use of a USB2.0 card for the PCMCIA slot.
My iPod touch (a very similar device) seems to work fine on my Powerbook G4 (Ti) on USB1.1.
mrtotes

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Can I connect 2 Thunderbolt devices into 1 Thunderbolt plug?
I have got an Ethernet cable and an external Monitor that I want to connect to my MacAir via Thunderbolt and I wonder if there exists an adapter for that.
Right now I have got an adapter for Displayport to Thunderbolt and and adapter for RJ45 Ethernet to Thunderbolt but I can't use them at the same time :(

Yes, with Mountain Lion you can do this, but I will leave the explanation to Apple Support Communities contributor Pondini:
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How to connect two thunderbolt devices to Macbook Air?

I have been using an Apple thunderbolt to VGA adapter to connect my digital projector to a Macbook Air. Now I need to also connect a pro audio firewire mixer, which has a firewire 400 cable. If I didn't have to connect the projector as well, I presume that the way to go would be to use an Apple thunderbolt to Firewire 800 adapter with an 800 to 400 adapter on the end, but as I have two devices I am rather stumped.
I know that thunderbolt/mini display is for daisy chaining, so there isn't such a thing as a thunderbolt hub, except that I could maybe use the Belkin Thunderbolt Express Dock (expensive as it is, it may be a cheaper option than others). I have read mixed reviews of this device, but it looks like it could essentially work - one thunderbolt cable to connect the Macbook to the dock, then use the Firewire 800 port on the dock with an 800-400 adapter for the mixer and the second thunderbolt port on the dock for the projector with the VGA adapter. I am wondering if there are any other possible solutions though, other than buying a Macbook Pro!
Thanks,
Nick

Sounds like a good suggestion but it is from 2009 and out of stock at Amazon.
This URL lists a newer one and says it is Mac compatible. I also do not have any experience with this product.
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-UGA-165-1920x1080-1600x1200-DisplayLink/dp/B004AI JE9G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_7
General advice: Keep all the packaging material in case you need to to return it in the 30 day Amazon return period (assuming it qualifies for a return). Purchase it on a credit card with consumer protection that entitles you to a refund if the seller will not accept the return.

How to daisy chain thunderbolt devices with only one port

I am using a macbook pro with one thunderbolt port. Quite a few thunderbolt devices have only a single thunderbolt port (don't support daisy chaining).
Does anyone know of a thuderbolt hub that adds additional thunderbolt ports?
If such a product does not yet exist, is it at least technically possible?
Thanks!

alexgrainger wrote:
Quite a few thunderbolt devices have only a single thunderbolt port (don't support daisy chaining).
Does anyone know of a thuderbolt hub that adds additional thunderbolt ports?
If such a product does not yet exist, is it at least technically possible?
(1) Thunderbolt does support daisy chaining up to 6 devices to the MBP's port (with some limitations). See
<http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/thunderbolt/thunderbolt-technology-dev eloper.html>
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.7/en/mh35952.html>
<http://www.macworld.com/article/158145/2011/02/thunderbolt_what_you_need_to_know .html>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)>
(2) Note that daisy chain and hub are not the same. However, my understanding is that, in principle, a Thunderbolt hub is feasible. I'm not aware if such a device is already on the market. I guess that whether or not Thunderbolt hubs will be eventually available depends on the demand.

Connect a Thunderbolt Display to a mid2009 MacBook Pro with mini Displayport?

Hello Fellars,
Is it possible to connect a Thunderbolt Display to a mid2009 MacBook Pro with mini Displayport?
Best regards,

That means i can either buy a new Macbook WITH Thunderbolt AND a Thunderbolt Display or
use my 2009 Macbook Pro with Displayport and an older Display??

Mini-DisplayPort to VGA adapter & other thunderbolt devices

I currently use the mini-DisplayPort to VGA adapter so that I can work on a large external vga monitor.
Will this work if the adapter terminates the chain or will I need to connect the adapter directly to the laptop thus preventing me from using any thunderbolt devices?

I was just thinking.. It is possible that belkin is support the miniDisplay in that port as well.
Yeah, that was my thinking as well...
The matrox dock is going to have DVI on it, but it doesn't support chaining (i.e. it only has 1 TB port)
Does your external monitor support DVI - let me go look at the Matrox - ugh - don't like it compared to the Belkin.
They're BOTH expensive and, as I don't believe that either is shipping, I'd have to wait on someone else to do the beta testing.
I've never tried a USB>DVI adapter - here are a few from my favorite adapter/cable company, though.
Good luck,
Clinton

HT5219 When can we expect a fix for the Windows 8.1 hot-plug issue with a Thunderbolt device.

When can we expect a fix for the Windows 8.1 hotplug issue with a Thunderbolt device. I got a dock to easy my up-and-go time when moving from using my laptop on the desk vs in meetings. Instead my computer crashes and I have to reboot.
I am seeing this issue with the 2012 Macbook pro Retina running Bootcamp with Windows 8.1 x64 bit with the F4U055 Dock from Belkin

I can confirm that hotplug does work properly on Windows 8.1 with Asus Thunderbolt ExII (Thunderbolt 2)
But does not work with Windows 8.1 and MacBook Pro Retina (Thunderbolt 1)
To get hot plug working with the Asus Thunderbolt ExII, you install the intel thunderbolt drivers, and then you get an interface where you can eject devices, and do things like setup more detailed security. However, this doesn't have any effect with the MacBook Pro. I suspect that either:
1) Apple's Thunderbolt hardware doesn't support hotplugging on windows
2) Hotplugging on Windows requires Thunderbolt 2
So, I should check on my Mac Pro (dustbin edition) to see if it works there with Thunderbolt II
Be great to hear if anybody has any success with this on an Apple device!

Can I put a Moshi Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter (with audio) in a thunderbolt port in the new macBook Pro

can I put a Moshi Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter (with audio) in a thunderbolt port in the new macBook Pro, will it work?

Should work perfectly.

Can I use an adapter to get thunderbolt on my early 09 MacBook pro

Can I use an adapter to get thunderbolt on my early 09 MacBook pro?

No. ThunderBolt is a direct connection to your systems PCI Express bus. There is no way for your existing ports to do this with any sort of external adapter.

How can I automatically "retract" all windows from my Thunderbolt display back to my MacBook Air when I disconnect the display, esp if the Thunderbolt is the desktop with the white menu bar?

I am in and out of my office with my MacBook Air. I would like to set it up so when I plug in my Thunderbolt display in the office, the Thunderbolt display has my desktop, menu bar and the open windows. If I set the Thunderbolt display to mirror by MacBook Air it adjusts to the lower resolution of the MacBook Air, which is a waste of a cool monitor. I can set it up as an extended desktop and drag the white menu bar to the Thunderbolt display so it displays my desktop but if I then disconnect my MacBook Air, the menu bar is absent and all the windows that were seen on that display are absent, as if it I was still attached to the larger display. The only way around this is to go to Thunderbolt display preferences, drag the white menu bar back to the smaller display and manually drag all windows to the smaller display before disconnecting. Doing this multiple times per day is a real pain. Is there a way to set my MacBook Air to recognize when it is attached to the Thunderbolt display and automatically my desktop and all open windows to it and then do the same process in reverse when I unhook it?

It's definitely not supposed to work like that...when you plug the display in, it should just turn on and adjust your displays. It works like that on my MBP. Kind of a silly question, but do you have the MagSafe from the display plugged in your MBAir too? Thats a requirement. Beyond that, it should "just work."
Not sure if there is some setting to enable...i haven't seen it. Call to support?

Connect multiple devices to one Thunderbolt port with docking station

Hello everybody,
for a video editing setup I would like to use all devices connected until now directly to my iMac just with a Thunderbolt docking station on only one Thunderbolt port. What I do not understand is, whether bitrate will stay the same for each device or will be splitted? Has this to do with daisy chaining Thunderbolt devices?
So this will be the setup:
1 Thunderbolt cable from iMac to Thunderbolt docking station
devices connected to docking station:
one Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle Thunderbolt
one external USB 2.0 hard drive
one external USB 3.0 hard drive
external HDMI monitor
Ethernet connection
So the general question is, will all of these devices get only part of the bitrate that Thunderbolt provides or can each device, theoretically, get full Thunderbolt bitrate?
And are there different types of Thunderbolt cables (Thunderbolt 1 or 2) that I have to pay attention to?
Regards DonTimo

Also, if you use the Apple 27" Thunderbolt Display, it will have an additional Thunderbolt and Firewire ports on its back.

Thunderbolt device not showing up...

I am having issues with my Thunderbolt device (Matrox MXO2 Mini) which allows me to monitor HD video on an external monitor when using Final Cut Pro on my iMac. When I opened my System Profiler, it says there is no devices connected to the thunderbolt port when there is clearly one connected. Could it be a bad cable? Could the port itself be bad? I did notice the cable felt loose when connected to the port and not snug. I've checked all the cables on the Matrox box and they seem to check out but am not thinking this could be a thunderbolt problem with my iMac. I only have 1 TB port on this iMac and don't have any other TB device to test to see if in fact its a problem with the port.
Everything has been working fine until today when I went to edit a video, I was not getting a picture on my external monitor.
Any thoughts?

The initial problem has now been solved. I hate to even admit this but it was "Operator Error". I didn't have the TB cable seated all the way in to the port on my iMac which was not able to detect my Matrox. Once I fixed that and checked System Profiler, the Matrox Thunderbolt Adapter was listed.
Now I am not out of the woods just yet.
So I open Final Cut Pro 7 and its not seeing my Matrox! I've tried everything from disconnecting all cables on the Matrox again to selecting another HDMI port on the HDTV monitor I use. I even swapped out HDMI cables and still nothing.
When I go into my Matrox Utilities folder, and click Matrox MAX Firmware Updater, Its saying: ERROR MESSAGE, No Matrox video devices were detected in your system. The firmware updater cannot be performed.
My Matrox is clearly connected and hasn't been tampered with and had been working just fine. I am the only person who uses this computer so I am clueless how its working fine one day and then the next time I use FCP, I am having all these issues.
I agree, I will have to give Matrox a call tomorrow and see if they can suggest something else to try!
Thanks for your help!

"Sleep is disabled in Windows 7 or 8 while a Thunderbolt device is plugged in

"Sleep is disabled in Windows 7 or 8 while a Thunderbolt device is plugged in."
http://www.macwindows.com/Thunderbolt-Limitations-of-Mac-running-Windows-and-get ting-around-them.html

yes from what I've been able to read then tb is a multiplex of a minidisplayport signal with pci-express
and windows implementation is rather poor as in don't support hotswap so not being able to sleep tight when the pci-express part being used would not be impossible

Thunderbolt device driver problem

I have a W540 and running Windows 7 64 bits - and brought a WD My Passport Pro Thunderbolt HDD. I know it is for Macs - but, I was thinking of reformating the HDD into NTFS once I can get the HDD to mount into Windows. The Thunderbolt Devices display tells me -
Thunderbolt Port 1 *-> Western Digital, My Passport Pro.
Unfortunately, I have a problem with "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller" driver - gave me Code 12.
Does anybody knows of a replacement device driver to get this HDD to work? Or recommend an equivalent portable HDD (of at least 4TB) that works with W540 Thunderbolt port.
Thanks... WTS

Update - I think a more fundamental issue is this ...
Does the W540 BIOS support Thunderbolt hard-disks? I ask this - because I observe this ... when a Thunderbolt hard-disk is plugged in AND I reboot the computer, it hangs at the BIOS initialisation stage. Only when I remove the Thunderbolt drive, then the machine can boot up.
Also I noticed there is NO option in the BIOS for Thunderbolt - only USB.
TS

Thinkpad Edge S430 Core i7 Thunderbolt Device

I was wondering about the Thunderbolt device as there are no drivers at the support page and even the Solution Center/System Update Utility doesn't recognize the Thunderbolt device. As so it isn't listed in the Windows Device Manager. I made sure that it is activated in the Bios (Thunderbolt Enabled).
When I plug in a second display via a Display-Port to DVI Adapter, the second screen is not recognized. So I guess the device/driver isn't even installed. Sadly I don't have another Thunderbolt device to test its functionallity.
I try to buy the apple thunderbolt to firewire 800 adapter. Does anyone know if it will work with non-apple thunderbolt implementations?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
David
Solved!
Go to Solution.

IT WORKS!!! I just received my Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire Adapter and connected it with a RME Fireface 800 Audiointerface. ASIO Low Latency is perfect and the recording also works flawless!
The Device is recognized as a standard OHCI LSI IEEE 1394-Controller in Windows!
The Pity is I forgot to order a HDMI Adapter for my second screen, which was connected via thunderbolt before.

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