Ti4200 VTD 8x (MS-8894) Fan dead

Hi,
The fan on my graphic card doesn't spin anymore unless I push it a bit, it'll run for a few minutes and then stops so it needs to be fixed (temperature around 72 C).
The manufacturing date is feb 2003 so it should still be under warranty I think (but not sure)
I guess I could RMA the card but I feel a bit insecure about this, never done this before and don't really know how to proceed. Any recommandation of wich delivery service I should use?
Or if I could simply get another fan to change it myself it would great (as long as I have instructions on how to disassemble the card and what kind of thermal coupound it takes to put it back in one pieces) but I don't know if it's possible to just get another fan.
Also I was wondering if anyone know a way that I could boot my computer without the graphic card seems the bios wont let the boot process complete if I don't have a video card plugged in. I don't have any other card I can put in there... and I need to be able to access my computer at least trough the network (Netbios + vnc is all I need for now)... I wondered if any key combination while booting could bypass this (I have an MSI-KT3Ultra2 motherboard (MS-6380E)
Any help would be really appreciated
Thank you very much!
Have a nice day

I think TT GIANT 2 is too big probably wont fit correctly in my case and I checked Antec website for the Vantec CCB-A1A but it doesn't says it is recommended for GF4-Ti4200 (mostly GF3 and GF4mx) , but If you say it's ok I'll believe you and try to search for it (a working fan is much better than no fan at all)
I've looked around the web site of shops near me and I found that this is the only product available
Thermal Take Cooler GF4 Highest Perf. [A1349] (19$ can)
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/chipset/a1394.htm
Is this good enough or I should still search for one of the products you suggested (antec fan seems great since I won't have to mess around too much with the heatsinks)
If not I could always try to special order one of the antec fan or order it online if you know any site that have the Vantec fan and that can ship to Canada it would be appreciated. Do you have any advice of what kind of thermal paste to use when reassembling the card?
Thanks a lot your help is really appreciated

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I think it improved a bit but its still a definite eye strainer... I can go down to 800X600 so fonts are bigger but D*mn... nothing looks right at that res!!!
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The pocket change is going to take a while to get a 17" flat panel.... (although Frys had one for 279 or 379 this past weekend unkown brand though and honestly I haven't researched them at all so I don't know what I would look for (besides DVI!!)
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Thanks for helping out those of us in need.
To NovJoe:
1) Try updating your GPU's driver.
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Finally, here's the entire system. I just want to add that I greatly appreciate both of your help and advice and am just jealous about how much you guys know and how willing you are to help.
System Info:
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