Ti4200 VTD 8x (MS-8894) Fan rattling

I have had my GeForce4 Ti4200 VTD 8x (MS-8894) for almost a year, and overall I have been very happy with it. The problem is that there is a rattling sound that the fan makes at start up. It used to be quiet enough to ignore, but in the 11 months that I have had the card, its been getting louder and lasting longer.
Any ideas on how to fix it?

a little add on to my last post... I was checking of something else when an idea occured to me. I googled MSI Ti4200 and wire, and sure enough, there were a couple of people complaining of noise from their card, the fan blades were hitting the fan power wire. I checked, and sure enough, there it was. I used a small set of needlenose pliers, and voila! No noise at all on startup. Once again, thanks for your help!

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The manufacturing date is feb 2003 so it should still be under warranty I think (but not sure)
I guess I could RMA the card but I feel a bit insecure about this, never done this before and don't really know how to proceed. Any recommandation of wich delivery service I should use?
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I think TT GIANT 2 is too big probably wont fit correctly in my case and I checked Antec website for the Vantec CCB-A1A but it doesn't says it is recommended for GF4-Ti4200 (mostly GF3 and GF4mx) , but If you say it's ok I'll believe you and try to search for it (a working fan is much better than no fan at all)
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Bought this card from Newegg April 7th, the fan just quit. Judging from the numerous posts in this forum by folks with the same problem....is this a trend?
Since I'm out of the 30 day return from Newegg, guess I have to RMA this thing through MSI.......any advice?
P.S. Not interested in buying a replacement fan for a product 2 months old...should be under warranty......or maybe I expect too much.

Lol, Sorry to hear of the misfortune but MSI will tell you just like any other Manufacturer will, "Go to the reseller first" New Egg did what they were supposed to. If your warranty with the reseller has expired then you turn to the Manufacturer and go through the process of an RMA. Anyone with a mouse should be able to find that info on the website without going to the forum.
This forum is moderated by users just like you, only we have been around for a while and have volunteered our time and get moderator priveledges, no one from MSI looks at these forums. It was and is intended for user to user help and support. Asus doesn't have that. As a matter of fact may ASUS gf3 Ti200's fan died only after a full three months of use. That stuff happens to EVERYONE, If what you see here in these forums appears to be a trend, I think that analogy may be a little skewed as this is a troubleshooting forum where people come with problems, therefore ALL you see is problems. Aside from the Media Center II nightmare and the TV AnyWhere early version.
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I've got two issues one I think is a dumb question.
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I think it improved a bit but its still a definite eye strainer... I can go down to 800X600 so fonts are bigger but D*mn... nothing looks right at that res!!!
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Don't do this if you still got warranty.
There are two way to fix this fan sound problem by either replace whole blower with new part or replace the fan bearing. I already order matching part from china. But it would take at least 2 week to ship to me. So it's time for temporary fix.
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Or couple years if you put oil every 6 month. At least this is what is on practice.
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