TI4200 VTD-8X

I've got two issues one I think is a dumb question.
#1 (the dumb one) where do I get drivers? MSI website has one current driver that says its for all MSI VGA cards?? Is that right? Just looking at what is currently for sale there is a S**T load of cards available... only 1 driver?? I also checked out the nvidia site and the have 1 driver also... Tried the MSI Live update utility and it doesn't come back with any drivers, just a bunch of utility updates.
#2 question (serious one) - My display has suddenly gotten very fuzzy. I'm using a cheap 17" CRT monitor and haven't had any problems with it. I 've tried adjusting resolutions, refresh rates, and other settings with now problems. I did have a similar problem a couple of months ago at a different desk when I was using a cheap VGA extension cable. Got rid of the cable got rid of the problem. I have no such cable now. This is what got me looking for new drivers in the first place.
Any thoughts???? TIA!!! (BTW- thers no emoticon with me squinting my eyes trying to read my fuzzy monitor!!!)
EDIT- ASUS A7N8X
MSI TI4200-VTD8X
AMD XP2100
512MB Corsair DDR400
80GB WD Corsair 8 MB Cache
Monitor is a $100 17" CRT

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think it improved a bit but its still a definite eye strainer... I can go down to 800X600 so fonts are bigger but D*mn... nothing looks right at that res!!!
I usually run at 1024X768 and thats where I'm set at now. I really think its the monitor... I don't have a spare to try... guess I'll have to deal with it or buy glasses!!
The pocket change is going to take a while to get a 17" flat panel.... (although Frys had one for 279 or 379 this past weekend unkown brand though and honestly I haven't researched them at all so I don't know what I would look for (besides DVI!!)
Thanks again. (BTW- Nice system ... looks almost familiar!!)

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Guys,
Thanks for helping out those of us in need.
To NovJoe:
1) Try updating your GPU's driver.
I downloaded MSI's latest driver listed (Nvidia 4.1.0.7) and it shows working properly. I did not install the newest BIOS that was on MSI's web. I also loaded the video capture driver from MSI and the "Currently installed programs" list shows both Nvidia WDM Drivers and Nvidia Windows 2000/XP Drivers loaded.
2) Try throwing in Antec 430watts PSU.
I'd like to keep the new Antec case I just bought with 380W. I don't plan on adding any other HW but a DVD R/W drive next year.
3) Try updating your mobo's driver inclusive of AGP Gart driver.
I did download and install the newest XP drivers from Albatron and also a BIOS update that installed without any problems. But I don't know if there was any AGP Gart driver included. I'll contact Albatron to find out. What specifically can I ask them to tell me to determine if AGP Gart was included in the XP driver?
For Richard:
As mentioned above, I believe I loaded all the current drivers available. That also includes the Intel's latest IAA driver.
Here's the list of IRQs and the shared ones seem to point to the problem. The MSI card and a USB controller share an IRQ. I have some of the 6 USB port not responding to a MS Sidewinder joystick. Microsoft Catalog says the joystick and driver are XP compitable but, I had to try installing many times before it finally worked (listed as a Human Interface Device) and yet does not show attached to any of the USB ports in the Device Manager listing!?
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(PCI) 16 MSI MS-StarForce GeForce4 Ti 4200 w/ AGP8x (Nvidia)
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(PCI) 18 US Robotics V.92 Fax Win Int
(PCI) 19 Intel 82801DB/DBM USB Univ Host Controller - 24C4
(PCI) 22 3Com 3C910 Integrated Fast E-net Controller
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Hello
The fan of my card is not working, but when I propel it manually it turn itself weak few times.
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pleas help me.. sorry for bad english!
MSI 128MB StarForce8894 G4 Ti4200 VTD 8X
Gigabyte 8PE667 Pro i845PE
Intel P4 NW 2.53Ghz, 533Mhz
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Stuntman,
Take it back to the place you bought it from. If they will not take it back, then:
1) Never use them again.
2) RMA the card to MSI
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Sorry if this has been answered before.
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Originally posted by Deathstalker
krystof,
Let me know what they say. If it is not helpful, post your specs here and we will trouble shoot it for you till its fixed to your liking.
Take Care,
Richard
Thanka for your interest.
They are still silent.
Here is my configuration:
MB: MSI 6590 MS-KT4 Ultra BFISR, Sc A, Bluetooth, S-ATA, LAN
CPU AMD ATHLON XP 2200+ - BOX not overclock
DIMM DDR 512MB,PC333(2700),CL2.5
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IBM HDD Deskstar 180GXP, 120GB, 7200rpm, 8,5ms, 2MB
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Language: Czech (Regional Setting: Czech)
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0881)
DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall
DxDiag Version: 4.08.01.0881 32bit
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Thanks for answer.

875P NeoFIS2R

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Just bought all new parts to upgrade my system and it wont boot to the POST. ;( I have a ThemalTake V2000A Case, P4 2.4C 800MHz Bus, MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R, MSI Ti4200 VTD Video, and a Enermax 320 Watt Power supply. I'm thinking it's the PS, but I would like to hear other opinions before I go out and buy a 450 Watt Enermax PS.
John

Well I found out my damn problem was! First I disconected everything except your basic needs (RAM, CPU, Video, and etc.). Still not booting to the POST! I was like . Then it hit me, take a look in back at the those 4 special lights. Come to find out, the proccessor wasn't seated correctly. My case came with a heat sensor to put under the CPU. When I installed it I didn't hold it down hard enough for it to seat in the mobo socket.
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athlon xp 1700+
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I own a MSI Geforce 4 Ti4200 VTD and as I will soon get 3D glasses, I need to get the highest refresh rates it can give. My monitor is a Samsung Syncmaster 900 NF and it can handles 160Hz at 800x600 or 132Hz at 1024x768 (these are the 2 resolutions I plan to use).
Unfortunately reading the spec of my MSI Geforce 4, it seems that it cannot handle the same refresh rates At 800x600, it can handle 150Hz and at 1024x768 it can do 120Hz. I know the difference is not so important but as I plan to tweak the settings to their max (and it is really required for 3D stereovision), I need to know the exact max capabilities of the card.
What seem strange to me is that other Geforce 4 Ti4200 based card (such as the Asus) have MUCH higher refresh rate capabilities and can display at 200-240Hz at those resolution!!!!!!!!! And this is for the exact same chipset so I find this a little disturbing.
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