Ti4200-VTD8X (MS-8894) refresh rate problem

I upgrade my Geforce3 Ti200 VGA to Ti4200-VTD8X (MS-8894). My monitor is Samsung SyncMaster 955b (19").
My problem is: I can not get refresh rate 1280/1024 85 Hz (This is the recomended rate of this monitor). I have instaled the newest monitor driver.
Ah.. I have a 2nd problem. My OS is Win XP prof. In the "display properties" window there is a place called "MSI information". In that window nearly all my VGA properties are wrong. It saya my memory is 32MB and SDRAM. AND i can not change the check boxes there. Can you please help me to solve my problems.
Thank you,
Dr. Tolga Demir

drtolga,
If you want to be able to have the hidden functions, create a file with notepad and put this in it.
Quote
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARENVIDIA CorporationGlobalNVTweak]
"Coolbits"=dword:ffffffff
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage"=dword:00000001
Save it as agpsetting.reg to your desktop or anywhere you like. Then run it and it will give you all the hidden options from nVidia which include extra Resolution settings for your desktop and overclocking for both the memory and core.
Take Care,
Richard

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I'm using the drivers/BIOS that came on the CD: Driver version 6.13.10.4107, BIOS version 4.28.20.05.11. I see on the nVidia site that they have the 4109 drivers out now, should I try those? ?(
I have also made sure to do the suggested modifications to IE (and I don't have PC-cillin installed):
"Note: In order to operate this application properly, please note the following suggests.
-Set the IE security setting 'Download signed ActiveX controls' to [Enable] or [Prompt]. (System default is [Prompt]).
-Disable 'WebTrap' of PC-cillin(R) or any web based anti-virus application when executing MSITM Live Update 2TM.
-Update Microsoft® Windows® Installer"
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