Tiger and Firewire

Over the last few Tiger updates has anything changed in the way that Firewire ports work?
The question because my G5 recognises that there is a camcorder(Canon MV5i) connected to one of the firewire ports but when I try and capture from the camcorder in FCE and iMovie HD the camera isn't recognised.
I've tried all the trouble shooting in FCE and iMovie is there anything in Tigers prefs that I could look at?
Have already posted in FCE and iMovie discussions without any luck so I thought I'd try here.
Thanks
Marc

Yes, there have been reported issues with Firewire, but then these issues have been around since the release of Panther. You might try the following:
LaCie's Mike Mihalik checked in with some tips about dealing with FireWire failures:
Seems like the FireWire issue needs to be revisited quite often. Here is my often repeated suggestion which appears to clear up many FireWire issues: reset the FireWire ports. Panther has a Finder Preference to show mounted volumes on the Desktop. You must set this for mounted drives to be visible. Please follow these instructions to reset your FireWire port. Here is a summary:
1. shut down and disconnect all external drives and peripherals ; make sure nothing is connected to the FireWire ports.
2. use Apple Disk Utility to repair permissions on your internal boot drive.
3. shut down and disconnect the AC power from the computer as well as the drives; if laptop, also remove battery; let sit unpowered and unconnected for 15 minutes.
4. reconnect AC power to only the computer (battery too if laptop)
restart computer.
5. verify that FireWire ports are visible within Apple System Profiler.
6. reconnect FireWire drive (only one); refresh window within Apple System Profiler to rescan the FireWire bus; confirm that drive is visible.
7. confirm drive is OK by using Apple Disk Utility and apply First Aid
repeat for other drives, one at a time.
If this doesn't help then you might consult www.macfixit.com for other reports and suggested solutions to Firewire related problems. I would also check out Canon's support site in case this is a known issue to them.

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Actually, the point is to run Repair Disk in Disk Utility, and you can do this booted from Tiger. The following procedure assumes you have already cloned your internal HDD to an external firewire HDD as suggested earlier.
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If DU reports errors Repair again and again until DU reports disk is repaired.
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• Open Installer and begin installation.
• Select Options and choose Archive and Install and to preserve settings.
• Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger)
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• After installation computer will restart for setup.
• After setup, reboot computer.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
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• Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
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Is it safe to plug and unplug USB and Firewire cables with the computers on? I have a Mac G4 and a newly purchased IMac and I use one printer for both computers. Should I shut down the computers when I unplug the printer and connect to the other computer? How about when switching firewire drives.
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Testing speed of usb and firewire cables?

I have a bunch of usb and firewire cables that I would like to test somehow to determine if they are usb 1 or 2 and firewire 1 or 2. Some cables are labeled as high speed usb, some are not and some have no labels at all.
1. Is there a way to do this in Tiger?
2. For transfering data to an external drive, is Firewire 400 or usb 2 faster?
Thanks!

Hello kat.hayes,
Let's take your three questions in the same order:
Question #1: Technically, No, USB cables have the same termination ends. However, not all cables are made to the same standards and quality (shielding has a lot to do with how well they work/last). Quality cables are at a minimum double shielded but that does not stop mfg's from making claims about "high-speed". If there is a problem with the cable, you will know it in that the device connected will not work. Period.
The 2nd part of your question #1 regarding "bottleneck" is that if the USB2 port receives the slower USB protocol from a connected device, it will negotiate to the lower speed. Not a "bottleneck" exactly, as the external device you have connected will determine the speed. Not the USB cable.
I don't know why you are trying to figure out the speed of the USB cables.
It really comes down to what you want to do with your computer and what type of external device you need to connect. If you have a choice of which type of device to use, choose FW(See below #2 for a brief explaination).
Question #2: The issues and technical debate about which protocol is better(faster) really are meaningless as the final speed determinate is controlled by the chip/interperter that the manufacturer of your external device choose to use. If the device uses inferior chipset design, then no amount of "maximum rated transfer speed" for either FW or the USB-2 is going to make a bit of difference.
FW is usually faster. It comes down to the protocol used by the two designs. The one major diffence that benefits Firewire users is that it is isosynchronus. That means that if you have for example 3 devices, that all 3 would get 400mbps bandwidth to use, while USB2 is shared between devices. This is the ugly side of using USB2. If you a want an in depth technical explaination let me know.
Regarding your question #3:
Your Power Mac G5 has one FireWire 400 port on the front (rectangular shape with one pointed end), one FireWire 400 port on the back, a FireWire 800 port on the back(square,blocky shape), and four USB 2.0 ports—one on the front and three on the back. There are also two USB 1.1 ports on the keyboard. See this link:
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So, plug any USB2 into the computer only. USB1 devices can be plugged into either the computer or the keyboard.
And FW400 & FW 800 into the correct, differently shaped recepticals.
If you let us know what you intend to do with your external devices and I'm sure there will be a number of excellent suggestions, hopefully based on personal experience, on which protocol would best fit your situation.
Hope this helps.
Respectfully,
Bill Gallagher

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i tried to look through the posts to find this, but didnt.
im looking to reinstall my OSX Tiger, and i want to keep all of my email. can i just copy something from my apple mail folder and replace after the install? what do i do about permissions or preferences? can i copy those too?
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Before switching to Tiger at work, I was successfully able to log on to my computer there from home using VPN. Now that I have switched to Tiger, I cannot seem to log on anymore. I know the IP changed, I have addressed that issue, but still no luck. I'm pretty sure there are some options on the Sharing preferences that I may, or may not, have correctly selected.
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Hello,
I would like to uninstall Tiger and reinstall it. What is the process?
Thanks,
Jordan

Why do you want to uninstall it? Do you have a theory that a previous of Mac OS X works with something that it currently does not work?
Or do you want to find out if you have data that is corrupt with a specific application, and if so, which application?
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http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html
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