Tiger and Panther

I know some/many are delighted that Mac users can now run windows. Unless I've misunderstood this new ability is only on the Intel models . Knowing that Apple plans to be using only Intel CPU's by years end, I'm very concerned that those of us running the "older models (I just bought a G5) aren't going to be left in the dust when Panther is released.
There's a few programs which are not available in Mac format that I'd like to be able to run. I use my G5 primarily for audio (home recording) - I know there's emulators, butI'm cncerned about transfer rates which is very important in computer recording.
Anybody heard whether Apple will or won't forget the rest of us?

Leopard is the next OS version. Panther preceeded Tiger. I wouldn't be too concerned. Every available app runs in Tiger, including Windows under an emulator. Future app updates should continue to work.
There's a few programs which are not available in Mac format that I'd like to be able to run. Such as? If those currently run under Windows, then you can also use them on your machine. As for transfer rates, I wouldn't know, and leave that for others to answer.

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    I am not being critical, but your post is a good advertisement for having a good backup/retreat strategy before software changes.
    Given the steps you have documented, there is really no way to determine what happened when to your system.
    Did you use the full retail version of OS X when you attempted to upgrade? Did you use the migration feature?
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    P.S. Your problems are much greater than a Safari issue.
    Message was edited by: Barry Hemphill

  • Freezing in Leopard, Tiger and Panther

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  • Tiger and Panther installation error

    Hi,Im new to this forum,nice to meet you all
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    If you have additional memory cards you might be able to remove some and then run AHT again to see if the error is gone.
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  • Converting from Tiger and Panther to Leopard

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  • Tiger and Panther same Mac???

    Hi everyone!
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  • Went back from Tiger to Panther and have really screwed up...

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  • Removing OS 10.4 (Tiger) and Reinstalling OS 10.3 (Panther)

    I would like to remove OS 10.4 (Tiger) from my computer and replace it with the original OS 10.2.7 that came with my PowerMac G5. But when I put the Software Install & Restore disc it say's that there is a newer version and will not let me continue the installation.
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    Select number of partition in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
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    Select on Security Options button (Tiger) Options button (Panther & earlier).
    Select Zero all data. (This process will map out bad blocks on your HDD. However, it could take several hours. If you want a quicker method, don't go to Security Options and just click the Erase button.)
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    Open installer and begin installation process.
    Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
    Check box to install X11 (Tiger) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
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    After installation computer will restart for setup.
    After setup, reboot computer.
    Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
    Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
    Select First Aid in main panel.
    Click Repair Disk Permissions.
    Connect to Internet.
    Download and install 10.3.9 Combo Update.
    Computer will restart after updates.
    Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
    Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
    Select First Aid in main panel.
    Click Repair Disk Permissions.
    Please post back with further questions or comments.
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    cornelius
    Message was edited by: cornelius

  • Wont let me install tiger on panther on the hard drive

    Hello,
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    http://www.quest.gr/price/Sales/pdf/087200.pdf
    http://www.wdc.com/en/library/eide/2579-001037.pdf

  • Can I run Tiger and Leopard on the same computer

    Hi folks.
    I've been meaning to install Leopard for ages but have never got round to it (I bought the retail box when it first came out). I have upgraded my RAM to 2GB and my hard drive to 320GB with no problems.
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  • How do I do a Clean install of Tiger and Classic?

    My G4 came with Jaguar. OS 9 was part of the complete installation, that you could install or choose not to install. My computer has been having a lot of issues lately and I think that a clean install would be a good idea, especially, since I used an upgrade to install Panther and then installed Tiger on top of Panther. I want to install classic and Tiger. How do I do this properly? Thanks

    I plan to back up my personal files and any
    downloaded software I have.
    Amazing that. You've told us that numerous times, but
    you've failed to provide us with information on
    HOW you're going to do this. That is, please
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    WHERE you're planning on using to store the
    backup.
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  • Upgrade from Panther to Tiger or Panther to Leopard

    I'm operating a Powerbook 15" with a 1.33 G4 and 256MB RAM. I believe the specs for Leopard call for 512MB RAM. The question I have is, am I better off going with Leopard and upgrading the RAM or should I just go with Tiger and upgrade the OS?
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