Tiger and pc version of the Pioneer DVR-110D problems

ok here we go
I have tried the Beige G3 part of this forum with no luck cause i use a Beige G3 AIO
ok i have a Beige G3 AIO with a pc version of the pioneer DVR-110D running tiger 10.4.7 the drive will hardly work in tiger but will work flawlessly in 10.2 - 10.2.8, OS 9.x, windows 98, windows xp
the only way this drive will work in tiger is if i reboot with a disk in the drive and then it will work. but it will some times decide to stop working after 20 minutes or until i take out the disk.
some times it will stay working until i try to play dvd movies or try to burn with it then it will stop working and have to reboot with a disk in the drive in order to get it working again. if i don't reboot with a disk in the drive the drive will not work at all until i reboot with a disk in the drive.
im not sure if tiger is using a wrong driver for the drive or what. i know the drive is not bad cause it works so good under OS 9 and OS X 10.2 - 10.2.8. i can burn i app's under OS 9.2.2 with a modded pioneercdr authoring extension, and i can burn under OS X 10.2 - 10.2.8 with patchburn. but tiger refuses to work with the drive.
other than that tiger is running flawlessly on my Beige G3. the way it seems that its using a improper driver for the drive cause there is a apple branded version of the Pioneer DVR-110D with a modded firmware and a standard PC Pioneer DVR-110D with a pc firmware. if tiger is trying to use the drive as the apple version of the drive it can cause this cause the firmware is totally different from the standard pc version of the drive.
is there any one that can shed some light on this. maybe a driver edit or something maybe firmware to the apple version so i can try to flash this pc version to the apple firmware. or something. this drive should work as is if it works so great under OS 9.x, OS X 10.2 - 10.2.8, windows 98, and windows xp.
another problem i have is not being able to boot any OS X cd by normal means. i can get it to boot the 10.2 install cd by having the cd in the drive and hold the command option and power key's for about 5 seconds and some how the drive is tricked to boot and it does but it always fails to install cause the drive stop's working during the copy process.
the drive will boot the tiget install cd (with help from xpostfacto) without doing the trick to get OS X 10.2 install cd to boot but will still fail during the copy process. i know the fix for this is to get ahold of the apple version firmware for the DVR-110D drive. that also might fix the problem that it has under tiger. but it weird since the drive works great under OS X 10.2 - 10.2.8
sorry for making this a monster post but i would love to et this drive to work like it should under tiger like it does under the other OS's
BTW tiger is running great on the old beast besides the pioneer drive problem. not once has tiger failed to boot, not once has tiger crashed, ive timed this system on its boot time into tiger (34 seconds from start chime to full working tiger)its kinda sad to have tiger working so great but has this problem with the pioneer drive

i didnt say i used patchburn in tiger, only in jaguar did i use patchburn to gain burn support. altho i can try to use patchburn in tiger to see if it would help with the issue. AKA it seems like a driver issue to me
on how it will mount disk's when i reboot with a disk in the drive but will only halfway work. but will not mount anything if i boot without a disk in the drive when i put a disk in . but ASP in the ATA tap will show the drive . i can select disk burning in ASP only when the drive is working in its halfway state to show info. if i try when its in its non working state is will lock ASP up and some times throw tiger into a kernel panic when i try to reboot . after all that if i leave the drive alone tiger is ok

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