Tiger install DVD not recognized by G5

Well, this one really takes the cake. I have a G5 single processor. It has a drive that supposedly will read and write both CDs and DVDs, as confirmed by Apple System Profiler. It presently is on OS X 10.3.9 (Build 7W98). The original install disks were 10.3.5.
I just bought a Tiger 10.4 installation disk, which is actually a DVD disk. While the computer was running on 10.3.9, I inserted the Tiger installation disk per instructions. It never appeared on the desktop or finder windows. Eventually, it ejected by itself.
I then tried to boot from the installation DVD, holding down the C key. It would not boot. It eventually ejected by itself, and the computer booted from the internal hard drive.
I tried all the usual steps. I cleaned the DVD. I restarted the computer holding down control-s, and then ran /sbin/fsck. It said the drive is ok. I then booted from my DiskWarrior CD, and rebuilt the disk directory on the internal hard drive. Upon restarting with the internal hard drive, same result. The computer simply will not recognize the DVD at all. Yet, I put it in another Mac computer, and it did appear on the desktop (though I did not install there).
I assumed that if there was one thing that could be counted on to boot up the computer, it would be an OS X install disk. My assumption was wrong. Yet, I can boot the computer in 10.3.9.
Here is some more info from System Profiler:
Machine Model: Power Mac G5
CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (3.0)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 600 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 5.2.2f1
ATA-6 Bus:
Vendor ID: 0x106b
Device ID: 0x0050
Revision ID: 0x0000
HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082B:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Model: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082B
Revision: C039
Serial Number: K2C45JI3935
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: Apple Supported/Shipped
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
System Software Overview:
System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98)
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.9.0
Boot Volume: Mac G5 HD
Computer Name: G5 Computer
All I want to know is how to make the computer recognize the DVD so I can install the system update.
Jim Lawrence
G5 1.8, single processor

I solved my own problem! On the Tiger page there is a link to if your install disk suddenly ejects. I followed their instructions to update my firmware for the DVD drive, and it worked.

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