Tiger install workaround needed

I want to install Tiger on Laptop but the Install Discs are not working - I have read that is because the Install Discs are not retail
I am therfore considering a work around option - using an iMac hooked up to the Laptop and running the installation using Pacifist
My question is this though - Will the OS still function on a Powerbook - I don't see why the OS should be any different for a Laptop or an iMac
Has anyone any warnings or advice on this issue
Are there any known issues on this subject

It is possible to find used Tiger retail discs. Yes maybe but I have always - and will continue to always buy direct from the source or not at all. I do not trust resellers who are dubious and not authorized. When I find websites that claim to be official Adobe Resllers of CS5 I am not tempted to buy from them because they are generaly 100% fake frauds and thus need to be avoided.
ask us to help you break the law - That's just not true is it : ) I never made such a request and since Apple claim they have no involvement in these forums as they are meant for user to user discussions I deem Apple to be irrelevant in such discussions. I am not asking Apple Employees or Reps. I was asking for help and advice from other users. I needed help and workarounds to get Logic Studio working since the install discs created problems. Other users helped me with that and I used Pacifist to repair the installation, that is not illegal and from that I was able to help other users who encountered that same problem. This issue is exactly the same thing.
circumventing protection Apple has put in place to protects its products - it no longer offers this product so there is nothing for it to protect anymore - Apple deem the products to be obsolete, no longer supported, apple do not care about these products - they are effectively dead and buried as far as they are concerned.
Secondly, it is turning into a topic discussing Apple policies and practices which is also in violation of the TOU. WhichSir is the direction that you chose to take the topic and I have politely responded - I merely could not understand why the discs would not install and wanted to know how I could solve the issue, that is why I asked other users for advice.
justify breaking the law - I did not justify breaking laws - I merely pointed out a little Irony about the matter which was meant to be light hearted but let's remember Apple did make the admission that they had been guilty as charged and that is a fact. The point is that if I could buy the discs from Apple then I would but I can't and so . . . rather than throw away an expensive machine I merely wanted to find a way to keep it useful and working effectively and that's just common sense basics.
Even if you stole from a thief, you would be a thief too - Well I can assure you I have never stolen anything from anyone and that's just a hypothetical event you chose to use to insult me and that's just a cheap shot.
And it's not their fault, it's yours for buying equipment before you investigated the limitations to what you could do with it and how. You Sir are so wrong. Apple choose to support or not support, to sell or not to sell, to enable use or destroy it and in this case, they decided to make the OS unavailable and they chose to ditch PPC and hence kill off these products. No one asked Apple to drop support, they do so to maximize profits just like any other business does and they are well within their rights to do so.
When we buy Apple products we never know how long they will be supported and none of us know what Apple plan to be doing next. I did not know that Apples Mirror Agent would cause my iMac Hard Drive to crash and burn at great cost and expense to myself and nor did I expect to pay £800 for a Lab Data Recovery bill but that happened. Apple denied all blame and treated me with utter contempt and I did not know that would happen either but it did. When I subscribed to MobileMe I never knew it would never operate as it should and I never predicted that I was just going to be wasting my money for services not supllied but that happened. I never knew that some of Logics features would fail when I purchased the Studio but they did and yes, I had to live with that failure like many others do.
Also you assume knowledge that I bought the Powerbook and you are wrong on that count as well. It was a gift for which I was grateful, regardless of its limitations Sir.
It honestly wouldn't surpise me if this whole topic got taken down - Fine, let it be, no one would care anyway and if that's the case then no further discussion is needed or neccessary.

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2- Fire Wire Target Disk Mode... (For this option you will need a second Mac)
- Target Disk Mode will basically turn your iMac into an external HD, by doing this you will be able to use a second Mac with a working disc drive to start up from the Tiger DVD and then install it on your iMac.
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re: this open firmware issue, how do you get around it? I really did not understand the support page you link to...but wonder if it is causing me trouble; i.e. shift and other keys do not work. How do I access these keys then?
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ok. will do.
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"...but may prevent you from logging into the computer."
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