Tiger installation from external drive

My internal drive failed on the iMac flat screen. I have installed a USB external drive which is working fine. However, now I want to upgrade to Tiger from 10.2.8. When I select the install icon the computer does an auto shut down and restart, but doesn't see the disk in the external drive. Is there a way to force the computer to boot off of the external drive?
iMac Flat screen Mac OS X (10.2.x)

You can force startup from any valid startup volume by restarting the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. There will be a large icon for each valid startup volume found. Select the one you want then click on the large right arrow button. The use of the selected volume will be valid until the next restart at which time the computer will default to the startup volume set with the Startup Disk preference. If you want to set the external drive as the permanent startup volume, then you will need to set it using the Startup Disk preference.
Now, the bad news is that most Macs cannot startup from a USB drive - only from Firewire drives.
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Is it possible to install Tiger from an external dvd drive (USB)? I'm not sure how to start up and bypass the installed os. Would it be easier to use my iBooks' dvd drive to install the os on another machine, using target disk mode. If so, how is that possible?
Thanks-Tom

I believe OS 9 supported USB booting - hence why it could be done on a Clamshell, OS X does not support USB booting- although the rumours are that the Intel Macs can boot from USB drives. The Target Mode is the best option. Switch off the iBook with the Tiger DVD in, then boot holding T to get you to target mode. Then you should be able to boot the iMac and hold 'alt' aka 'option' to see a full list of boot options.
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I am having a massive problem as I was installing Tiger from an external DVD drive (USB) the installation went on okay, but when it needed to reboot it crashed and now I have a “grey monitor with an apple” and the system is absolutely dead!!
How can I recover as I can’t access my CD drive or for the matter of sake anything?
If/when I get recovered how can I get The Tiger installed?
I do have a full retail version but Tiger is not really making life easy.
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Hmmm… is anything is better than getting a “you cannot do like that”? I really appreciate that one as that got me going and then installation was done as follows:
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• Then close down you computer and start it with “OPTION” key down and select the Installation disc when it appears on the monitor.
• The installation does now start. (I selected a clean partition on my hard drive, so in case you get into trouble you have the old system -10.2.8
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• When the installation disc reboots the system you press “OPTION” and select the installation disc again. –Be patient-
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Kappy I must disagree with you, but appreciate your comment as it got me going… and it is absolute possible to install Tiger from a external USB DVD you just need to be stubborn. And you can absolutely boot from a USB drive (SONY a cheap model)

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Hi, mattn.
Here's a better idea. Erase the external drive. Clone your brother's internal hard drive to it as a backup. Test to see whether the Powerbook will boot normally to the clone. If it doesn't, stop right there and run a full battery of first aid and repair utilities on the internal drive, then clone it again and test again. If all tests on the internal drive are OK, your external drive enclosure(s) may just not be bootable — some aren't.
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http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=135
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Thread 2
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