Tiger NetBoot Questions

I read through the docs and setup netboot on our new XServe (running 10.4.3) last night. It appears to be basically working, but...
1) I notice that the Server Admin tool -- after an hour or two -- lists the NetBoot Service as "Not Available". Once this happens I can't start, stop, or modify settings. So far the only way to get it back to normal is to reboot the XServe. Even though the service is listed as NA, it seems to be in fact running as I can Net Boot clients. What's the deal with this? I was having a similar problem with the Software Update service until the 10.4.3 Server Update. Is Server Admin just funky/buggy?
2) I notice that the shares for the netboot image and client shadow data are served via AFP with global read/write access. I thought NetBoot was NFS based, what's the need for the AFP share points, and why are they world writeable?
thanks for any insight!
darren
G5 dual 2.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

point 1) i had the same problem and i beleave its related to your DNS settings, if theres a problem with dns settings then the netboot goes offlline in server admin, its runs but u cant do anything in server admin, a fix oif ur dns should resolve this, this may also cause ur software update server to fail,
2 ) netboot for os x images is over NFS, but netboot for 9 is done over afp, thats y afp is set by default for netboot shares, if you do not require os 9 netboot then simply turn of afp for the shares. the settings are global because netboot requires global settings, as any machine can boot up off netboot server.
I read through the docs and setup netboot on our new
XServe (running 10.4.3) last night. It appears to be
basically working, but...
1) I notice that the Server Admin tool -- after an
hour or two -- lists the NetBoot Service as "Not
Available". Once this happens I can't start, stop,
or modify settings. So far the only way to get it
back to normal is to reboot the XServe. Even though
the service is listed as NA, it seems to be in fact
running as I can Net Boot clients. What's the deal
with this? I was having a similar problem with the
Software Update service until the 10.4.3 Server
Update. Is Server Admin just funky/buggy?
2) I notice that the shares for the netboot image and
client shadow data are served via AFP with global
read/write access. I thought NetBoot was NFS based,
what's the need for the AFP share points, and why are
they world writeable?
thanks for any insight!
darren
G5 dual 2.5Ghz
Mac OS X (10.4.3)

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Formatting, Partitioning Erasing a Hard Disk Drive
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The OSX disks shipped with a new computer are designed not to work on other models. Even if they did, you couldn't use a MacBook disk on a G4 because the MacBook is Intel and the G4 is PPC. Even if you could, you would be violating the license.
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Funny I thought the same thing so I put everything on the same switch/subnet. They both connect at 1000mbps on the same switch.
I did use Bombich's tools to create a Tiger Netboot image that was very small and it does boot faster but once booted Netrestore does not see the local hard drive. I obviously need to do more investigation on this.

Have G5 users noticed a drastic improvement now that OSX w/Tiger is 64 Bit?

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(1) 10.3.9 and 10.4 was compared
(2) G4 processor machines saw a User Interface speed improvement with 10.4, limited CPU performance increase.
(3) G5 processor machines saw a great CPU and a User Interface speed improvement with 10.4
(4) The best improvement of both CPU and UI was in the PowerMac G5 line-up at the time, which comprised of Single 1.8, Dual 1.8 and Dual 2 Ghz separate processors. iMac G5 wasn't available yet.
(5) G4's can realize a faster UI "feel" with 10.4 and some versions afterwards, and depending on the processor speed, some things like Spotlight and Dashboard can be disabled for even better overall performance on G4's.
From personal experience 10.4 was indeed faster "feeling" than 10.3.9, which I feel Apple might have hobbled a bit.
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Processor & memory before OS 10 Tiger

Hi,
I'm new to the list!
Been reading some posts--thanks to all for the great info!
I'm planning to upgrade my G4 Sawtooth, 450Hz, OS 9.2.2 by adding 4-512MB PC100 SDRAM, and 1.5Ghz processor upgrade[probably Fastmac??]and OS 10 Tiger
First question is-- do I upgrade the hardware, then install OS 10 Tiger or vice versa???
Second question is--will an external 160G Maxxtor drive work via the 400Mbps firewire w/ OS Tiger. I've read that I wll need to get a Ultra/ATA 133 PCI card [like the Sonnet Tempo ATA133] to get the full 160G capacity. I understand that without the card I can still use about 137G???
G4, AGP Sawtooth, 450Hz Mac OS 9.2.x
G4,AGP Sawtooth, 450Hz Mac OS 9.2.x

Have you added the individual costs for the upgrades that you're contemplating? Including the memory, processor, hard drive, ATA controller card or external 1394 case, and OS X software, you're likely to spend $600+. You didn't mention the optical drive in your Sawtooth. Do you have a DVD-ROM drive for the Tiger DVDs? If not, you can send them in for an exchange with CD media. Do you still have the stock video card? You may want a faster card with DDR memory to replace the original. When you're done remaking your Sawtooth, you'll have a considerable amount of $$ invested in it. If you decide to sell it in a year, you'll never be able to recover the costs of these upgrades. You may want to check prices for a slightly newer, faster Mac. Ignoring that upgrade reality check, I've got a B&W G3 that I've put more $$ into than its current market value or common sense would justify, so I know how you feel.
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Kisight:- If I Don't Have or Want to Use My iSight What Can I Use ?

kisight:- If I Don't Have or Want to Use My iSight What Can I Use ?
Or What Cameras are available for Macs ?
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Since the advent of Intel Mac and the Internal iSight and OS 10.4.9 (late Tiger) the question has broadened from "What can I use with iChat ?" to "What cameras can I use with My Mac ?" and from there into the current Question this User Tip plans to answer.
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These fall into three main categories that themselves have subsets.
Your choice is going to be influenced by the Applications you want to use it with.
1) Firewire Cameras (Plug an Play)
a) The iSight (External) made by Apple and several other similar cameras have mostly disappeared off the market. (Although iSights seem to be still doing well on Ebay - See Version and Mounts).
b) Firewire Camcorders. These vary as to which apps that work with dues to the different Signal outputs they can do.
Apple Article TA26556 Highlights some that have issues due to their proprietary DV Format.
2) USB 1.1 able Cameras. (Not Plug and Play)
This includes most cameras pre Vista (more on that later)
Most of these will need a suitable Mac Driver either from the Manufacturer or from one of two Generic sources (macam and IOXeperts). Some manufacturers will include a Mac Driver on the CD that comes with the camera some will supply it as a download from their Site.
It is worth while saying at this point that iChat will also need this reasonably cheap iUSBCam Utility as well.
This Utility was originally designed for getting the External iSight to work on computers less than the G3/600Mghz spec for iChat. Then it included the ability to get USB cameras to work with iChat.
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3) USB 2.0 Cameras. (Plug and Play in most cases)
a) Those that are UVC (USB Video Class) Compliant (Also listed as Vista Certified)
Apple added a UVC driver to the OS at 10.4.9 but your Mac also has to have an USB 2.0 port that you can plug such a camera into (Some keyboard ports are not USB 2.0). This means that the camera is Plug and Play although it may not have all the features it has on a PC
b) Those that are USB 2.0 but are not Vista Certified/UVC compliant. (You are going to need Mac Drivers again)
This site about Apple Compatible cameras may be of some help.
A Note on quality of Pictures.
Firewire cameras of either sort are best with Camcorders being the best of all. (Generally more pixels delivered faster to your Computer)
The Newer USB 2.0 cameras are tending to exceed the 640 X 480 pixels that earlier USB1.1 cameras use with some currently giving 1.3Mp resolutions. It should be noted though that not all applications will use this format.
Look closely at the maximum Frame rate (fps) a camera can produce. You may not get it is every applications but something that starts with a max of 15fps is going to give you no leeway.
Applications
You may get some more insight into what to go for by asking in one of these forums:-
iSight Discussions,
iChat AV Discussions for iChat 3 and iChat 2 and Earlier,
iChat and iChat Sharing (in Leopard)
and iMovie Discussions
Please Note:- some of these are Category Links and you have to select a forum within the list at the top of the linked page.
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Versions and Mounts Which Version Am I Buying ?
First off I will not say so much on Buying a second hand External iSight other than making sure you use a reputable Selling site or an Individual Seller so that you have recourse if the device turns out to be faulty. Try and get to see the camera working if you can, preferably seeing it plugged in and working or by iChat and seeing the Pic it produces (Get the person to show you live Screen shots (or Screen Share in Leopard/iChat 4) of System Preferences > Sound > Input as the iSight will be listed)
What I will list here is info about the different versions.
There were three versions before the External iSight was discontinued. There is little outward differences as the main change is the mounts that are included with each version. They all function the same way.
The versions are distinguished by letters (Revision A, B or C) in addition to the base part number and an added slash (M8817LL/).The Last model included different mounts for Laptops, Desktop Stand, Magnetic mount and one for a Flat Panel iMac (the Lampshade one). See pictures in this PDF on page 6.
Apple no Longer sell the External iSight or the Apple M9314G/B iSight Accessory Kit either but you may find it at other places as well if the mount you want/need does not come with the camera. Pics of Box and Contents
It appears that individual iSight mounts and other items can be purchased though this iSight Service FAQ page
Remember the youngest External iSight is likely to be at least 4 years old. Current anecdotal information suggests the cost of an Apple Repair to a faulty External iSight exceeds the cost of a USB Replacement (Or the value in real terms, of the camera itself - although higher prices seem to be quoted on Ebay and Amazon)
First Draft
10:08 PM Sunday; May 17, 2009
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Thanks Nubz
I will review further an correct myself.
The last reads the way I meant as in physically getting to see it.
I am not sure you are reading it the same way.
As a consequence your suggestion seems a bit ambiguous to my mind.
Thanks for the input. I will read a digest context a bit more and see if I can rephrase.
8:12 PM Thursday; May 21, 2009
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