Tiger on a G4 400... Worth it?

Hi, i have just purchased a G4 400 from ebay with the following specs:-
Power PC G4 400Mhz
L2 1MB Cache
256MB SDRAM
10GB Hard Drive
DVD-ROM
ATI Rage 128 Ps with 16MB VRAM
2 X FireWire
Ethernet port
2 X USB ports
Modem port
DVI port
And was wondering wether i should upgrade to tiger or stay safe with panther? Will tiger run at a useable speed?

Matt,
I notice that you listed Windows XP in your profile so this is in reference to the RAM on your machine. Macs like RAM even more than PCs. It is generally recommended that 512 MB of RAM be used with OS X even though Apple lists 256 MB as the minimum requirement. If you are just web browsing with this machine 256 MB may suffice, but if you do much of anything else or have multiple applications open the difference will be noticable on most machines.
If you are prepared to spend a little money upgrading your machine I would suggest:
1) More RAM (also reduces calls to the slow(er) hard drive)
2) Replacement (7,200 RPM) Hard Drive (you will need more space and it will be faster. Note: The native (on-the-logicboard) controller will not recognize a drive larger than 128 GB. If you want a larger one then a PCI/ATA controller would be in order which should also be faster than the native ATA controller.
3) DVD burner...they are rather inexpensive now (less than $50 online) and will be much faster than what you have in there now and allow you to backup data easier until you decide whether you want to spring for a second hard drive for backup.
4) CPU upgrade.
5) Graphics cards can be had that will help out with a good many things as OS X has a lot of "eye candy" in its applications and such, but the one you have should do for the time being.
6) As far as Panther versus Tiger goes, I would suggest that buying Tiger might not be the first thing I would spend money on to improve the machine.
Good luck and welcome to the forums
P.S. There will be some utilities that you will want to acquire to keep your Mac running well. Some are freeware and some are commercial software. You will see a lot of references on the forums to running "maintenance" on the Macs and get some ideas of what people are using.

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I am trying to determine which OS would be the better choice for my computer. I have been running 10.2.8 for a few years, but I just bought photoshop elements 4 and now I see I need 10.3 or better. I can use the educator discount from Apple for Tiger, or probably find an old retail disc for Panther, but I am wondering (for those who've tried with a similar system), which OS works better?
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It really doesn't matter which one you decide to use. However, that original 10G hard drive must be getting a bit cramped. Without having the RAM up to full capacity (it will take two 512 MB chips), you are overly depending upon virtual memory, which needs lots of free hard drive space to write to. Unless you are doing frequent restarts and keeping lots of hard drive space freed up, you could start having problems, and possibly losing data.
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http://www.macintouch.com/tigercompat.html
http://www.macintouch.com/tigerreview/incompatibility.html
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Hello all,
I'm helping a friend move from System 8 to Tiger on his G4/400 "Sawtooth" model. The machine is somewhat usable but it is awfully touchy and the keyboard and mouse freeze seemingly at random. However if I open a Finder window, and resize it, it will happen pretty much every time.
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117
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What's a "kernel panic"? (Mac OS X)
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Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
http://www.macmaps.com/kernelpanic.html
Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
http://www.index-site.com/kernelpanic.html
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http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html
Troubleshooting
The X Lab (Troubleshooting & Maintenance of OS X)
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/faqs.html
Apple's Mac OS X Troubleshooting 101
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I obviously asked this question in the wrong forum (sorry) so let me try again here:
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Switching from Windows to Mac OS X,
Basic Tutorials on using a Mac,
Mac 101: Mac Essentials,
Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts,
Anatomy of a Mac,
MacTips,
Switching to Mac Superguide, and
Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual,
Snow Leopard Edition.&
Additionally, *Texas Mac Man* recommends:
Quick Assist,
Welcome to the Switch To A Mac Guides,
Take Control E-books, and
A guide for switching to a Mac.

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Lion System Requirements: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4949
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Help. I've got an ibook G4. 800MHz, 640 MB DDR Sdram...133 bus speed. 256.
Safari keeps crashing etc. What would the advantages/benefits be to upgrade to 10.4 Tiger? Is it even worth the cost?
Or should I just save up and get a new mac book when I can afford it. I only use this G4 for mail, web, writing. Light weight stuff but was wondering if Tiger will help speed things up and fix Safari.
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Hi Bocaboca!
If you call Apple Phone Sales 1-800-692-7753, you can order Tiger 10.4.x, for $129.00.
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This is the correct one OS, Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, (DVD) Retail $149.95, at AllMac.
This one Mac OS X 10.4.6 Tiger, (DVD) Retail $159.95, at FastMac.
And this one Mac OS X 10.14 Tiger Retail $199.99 at HardCore Mac.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
Tiger is on DVD.
The disc should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on it.
Additional info in these links.
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Caveat Emptor!
If any are presently available, examine these items very carefully, and if in doubt, ask questions of the seller before purchase!
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Certainly there are few things as frustrating with computer use these days than glacicaly slow access to the net, unless it's having your computer bog down under a barrage of virus, worm, trojan, rootkit et al. attacks. There are some things you can yet try before going back to that aspect of Windows computing.
There have been few posts specificaly complaining about the eMac internal modem (which may be more a function of how many people have access to broadband these days). When I first got my eMac my home ISP was still a dial-up account as the ISP that provides cable modem access in this area maintained on there website lookup that they didn't provide coverage in this area. (Indeed, last I checked they still did; it took a chance conversation with a neighbor to learn that cable service actually was available.) During the time I was using the eMac with dialup, I never got over about 22 kbps but that was a known problem of cruddy phone lines in a semi-rural area and was even worse with one next-door neighbor's PCs; his maxed out around 18 kbps. The eMac's internal modem actually outperformed several different WinXP computers there.
In reading over your description of your frustrating efforts to improve things, from phone line interface hardware changes to ISP changes, I didn't see any mention of trying different modem connection scripts. Did you try dropping the default v.92 connection script to v.90 or even v.56? I'm sure your ISPs told you everything was compatible, but I got the same statement from my dialup ISP several times and I did determine that wasn't quite true; their modem servers actually used a slightly different hardware chipset. I found that changing the modem connection script did improive things to 22 kbps from 18 kbps or so.
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