Tiger RAID crashes Leopard

Turning on RAID created about a year ago with Disk Utility in Tiger brings up must restart window in Leopard. RAID consists of four 500GB drives set up as two mirrored pairs with data striped across the pairs.
Drives mount properly and data is present when connected to backup computer still running Tiger.

The RAID is four freestanding 500GB Fantom drives connected to a USB hub. Yes, Leopard crashes on startup if drives are on. I am not using a 3rd party controller. RAID was set up using Apple Disk Utility on machine running Tiger.
Apple Care said I needed to reinstall Leopard because the configuration should boot up under Leopard. Didn't help. Same as before.
As a work around, I have the RAID connected to my back up computer, still running Tiger, and connect to the spare computer wirelessly.
Thanks for asking. Any help/ideas are appreciated.

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    A Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Application Compatibility List - [http://snowleopard.wikidot.com>

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    Francois Dormoy wrote:
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