Tiger Reinstall Questions

things have been crashy lately - most Apps have won't stay open for more than 10 minutes. I gather from the forums that reinstall is a good solution. My admittedly nooby questions are:
1) Can I Archive&Install to outboard diskdrive and safely bring the stuff back to fresh OS? MacHD is 1G short of full and I cannot free up the recommended 10Gs.
2) If there a way to reinstall without completely clearing hard drive data? i.e. do I have to back up everything on my computer?
Many thanks in advance!

Can I safely run iTunes library from a Firewire (400 I believe) outboard disk? The library is a memory hog and takes up 45 gigs on my 75 Gig drive
Yes, I do, works fine... faster than the older internal drives too.
Can I upgrade my internal hard drive to a larger one? I have mirrored doors G4. And if so what's your recommendation?
Oh my, yes... I see your in Japan, but to give you an idea, assuming it;s the non-FW/800 model MDD...
http://tinyurl.com/4zcymo
Get carbon copy cloner to make an exact copy of your old HD to the New one...
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
SuperDuper...
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/
Have a look at Synchronize! Pro X 6.0.5
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6897/synchronize!-pro-x
Or the most expensive one & my favorite, Tri-Backup...
http://www.tri-edre.com/english/tribackup.html

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Tiger reinstall stuck

Hi all,
I'm in the process of reinstalling Tiger 'cause of the kernel panics I'm having with my MacBook Pro and I've run into a Tiger reinstall problem.
When installing iWork from Tiger Installation Disc2, the installer gets stuck at quite the end of the installation process, trying to execute the installation script for iWeb. The log says:
"<timestamp>: run postflight script for application iWeb"
"<timestamp>: No matching processes were found"
"<timestamp>: "
It was like this for 10 hours the first time I tried, no changes. I shut down the system and the Disc 2 installation started all over again, showing the same problem.
Of course, I'd like to avoid a erase/install because I'm trying to preserve my user data.
Any hints on what can I do next???
Regards,
Javier.
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I had exactly this scenario happen to me today. Upon an Archive and Install it would reach this point with iWeb and go no further. Attempts at rebooting or otherwise were met with the stuck installer.
Finally what worked for me was dropping to the Terminal via the Install Disc 1 and manually eliminating the Library and System directories, and for good measure renaming the Applications directory to something else so that one could be created by the installer. Since technically the entire install had finished the first time during the Archive and Install, the previous system folders were safely archived, so accomplishing an Install Mac OS X worked as expected once the first set of "new" system folders were eliminated, leaving me with an Archive & Install-type leftover, except that user information is not linked into the system. Still, a small price to pay to have a fresh new system back and running, rather than a 2500 dollar brick.
A true pain in the neck, that's for sure. I'm less than pleased with this state of things, given I was hoping to accomplish this in a matter of a few hours, rather than an entire day of messing around.
I hope this information is helpful in some way. Best of luck to you.
Greg
MacBook Pro 15" Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Reinstalling Tiger: Some Questions

My Appologies if this has been covered before. Something is broken on my system. I'm not sure exactly what it is but there are certain software applications that cause kernal panics on my system while working fine on other systems running 10.4.11. I've done a lot of work trying to deal with the problem and managed to eliminate most of the possible causes. So the next stop in my attempt to solve this problem will be to reinstall Tiger. I've never done this before. Since I'm into audio production I have a lot of material on my hard drive that I would prefer not to reinstall. (Logic Pro Studio, for instance take about 4 hours to install.) In some cases I no longer have the installers for programs i purchased of the web. (At the time I didn't know what those little brown boxes where so I deleted them.) So the first question is can I reinstall OS 10.4.11 without reinstalling everything else? I have the original install disks for my computer (a 22 month old intel iMac 1.83 with 2 gig of ram). I can't remember if these will install all the way up to 10.4.11. I've done a system backup using the Lacie backup software and a lot of my important stuff is actually on 2 external hard drives. What else do I need to do before starting this and what's the procedure? Thanks

Hi-
To reinstall the OS without reinstalling all your software, you would use the Archive and Install option. It may also be good to "preserve user settings".
Depending on your install disc version, may then need to update to 10.4.11. Download the Combo updater and that will get you up to snuff in one shot.
Before you do the reinstall, double check that all your backup needs are current.
One note, though the Archive and Install does replace the OS files, there is a chance that this will dilute the troubleshooting, as the presence of all third party items can't be discounted as suspect.
Still, a troubleshooting step none the less, just thought I'd mention that...

Want to erase hard drive and reinstall Tiger- quick questions

I am giving my G4 to my son in a couple of days and it now has Classic on it. My plan is to erase the whole hard drive and install just Tiger. So my thoughts are:
1.) There are no settings I want/need to preserve. I have 4 Tiger CD's- is that the right number? I think I have them all but just want to make sure.
2.) Do I insert CD holding down the C key and from some point when the CD loads, I chose Disk Utility and wipe the hard drive then? Are there different choices for wiping the hard drive? Like the number of passes?
3.) And then is it just a simple matter of installing all 4 Tiger disks?
Any other tips, tricks, advice you can give me? Tomorrow's the big day (2/1)! Thanks so much, I am a bit nervous about this......... Judy

mrstee:
Here are some directions you may find helpful:
Formatting, Partitioning Erasing a Hard Disk Drive
Boot from the install CD holding down the "C" key.
Select language
Go to the Utilities menu (Tiger) Installer menu (Panther & earlier) and launch Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select Partition tab in main panel. (You are about to create a single partition volume.)
Select number of partition in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
(Note 1: One partition is normally preferable for an internal HDD.)
Type in name in Name field (usually Macintosh HD)
Select Volume Format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Click Partition button at bottom of panel.
Select Erase tab
Select the sub-volume (indented) under Manufacturer ID (usually Macintosh HD).
Check to be sure your Volume Name and Volume Format are correct.
Click Erase button
Quit Disk Utility.
Installation Process
Open Installer and begin installation.
Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
Proceed with installation.
After installation computer will restart for setup.
After setup, reboot computer.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Connect to Internet.
Download and install Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo update (PPC)
Computer will restart after installing update.
Repair Disk Permissions as previously.
Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
Install all updates.
Computer may restart after updates.
Repair Disk Permissions, again, as previously.
Please do post back with further questions, comments or an update.
Cheers
cornelius

Tiger Maintenance Question

I work a small school, and have a question about Tiger maintenance (I use the general term 'Mac' because I am referring to everything from iMac G3's, G5's, Intel iMacs, iBooks andMacBooks). As far as I can tell, what currently passes for maintenance here is copying a disk image of the user's computer from a disk image, and reinstalling it.
My problem is that on my two iMacs at home (a G3/500 and an G5/1.6GHz) I run daily, weekly, and monthly maintenance via the command line, and fsck (I perfer to fsck, as opposed to using Disk Utility because I am learning something) whenever things aren't working as I feel they should; though I can understand why some people find the command line somewhat scary.
I have really grown to dig (I would say 'love' but that's way too creepy) the Mac platform, and it really bugs me when I think that it is being 'mistreated'.
In any case, as far as I can tell there is no maintenance done on our Macs at all (this includes permission repair, which I also do on my own machines regularly), other than what I already mentioned.
I guess what I am asking is that, if I am right, how can I convince our tech person that the command line (or even Disk Utility) doesn't cause a Mac to self-destruct, and how, even if you wipe a drive and restore from a disk image, that you're saving all the problems that were present before you created the disk image, and while the reinstall will help with issues of fragmentation (assuming that they are present) it will do little for any gremlins that have crept into the system.

My immediate answer is: by telling him loudly and clearly that, at least in this, you are correct and know what you are saying and doing!
I wonder if AppleJack, by being the command line written to by a tried and proved and highly respected utility, might help to convince him.

Aaargh, panics and a reinstall question

I've been seeing semi random kernel panics (I have concluded it has something to do with the phase of the moon, time of day, hemlines, SAMBA shares, firewire drives, etc, etc). I've gone through all the normal steps and have decided my best bet at this point is a 100% clean re-install.
My question. The machine (g4 Al 15") originally came with 10.3. Some time ago I upgraded to 10.4. This Apple link (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25497) says that if you are going to do a reinstall - do it from the original install disks (followed, I assume, by and archive and upgrade).
Is this real? Shouldn't I be able to go ahead and do a fresh install from my 10.4 DVD?
Thanks for the help.
G4 15", 2x G5 & Mini Mac OS X (10.4.3)

You can reformat the hard drive and/or perform an Erase & Install using the Tiger retail install package. I did so with my TiBook before loaning it to my girlfriend after my new 17" PB arrived but what is included with the Tiger retail install package will be installed only. If you want to re-install all additional software included with the 10.3 install package, you should use the 10.3 install package and then use Simple Upgrade to install Tiger since you won't need to use the Archive & Install method if done immediately after installing 10.3.
Regarding the kernel panics, an Erase & Install will not resolve it if caused by a RAM problem and defective or incompatible RAM are the most frequent causes of kernel panics.
Before doing a hard drive reformat or an Erase & Install, check Resolving Kernel Panics for troubleshooting steps to take in order with re-installing via an Archive & Install or an Erase & Install the last procedure if all else fails.

Pixelazation after Tiger reinstall G5 Tower

After reinstalling Tiger onto my G5 Tower (Dual 1.8GHz) every time I close a window a very small portion of that window remains on the screen. This will disappear after I highlight it but it is pretty annoying. I have done all the software updates. Is there an adjustment I need to make so that this doesn't happen anymore?

Hi Simonsong, and welcome to the forums!
Might give a try with Applejack...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596
After installing, reboot holding down CMD+s, (+s), then when the DOS like prompt shows, type in...
applejack AUTO
Then let it do all 5 of it's things.
At least it'll eliminate some questions if it doesn't fix it.
The 5 things it does are...
Correct any Disk problems.
Repair Permissions.
Clear out Cache Files.
Repair/check several plist files.
Dump the VM files for a fresh start.
As long as you don't have a USB connection in tandem with a Universal Power Supply, which can cause problems. Unplug the USB cable if you do.

How to find "Archive and Install" after Tiger reinstall?

I have recently reinstalled Tiger and have gone what I believe is the right steps for Archiving. Now I didn't know that is would effect the current programs on my computer like it has. Many will now not work properly or even open at all. Are these files or the information for the programs somewhere else? If so How do I find then and get back the programs like they used to be?
Thanks,
Dave

Details are in http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

Airport card + bluetooth no longer found after Tiger reinstall on G5 imac

hi guys, i was wondering if anyone could help me one this one...
i've just bought a second-hand 20" G5 imac (2GHz PPC), running Tiger 10.4.11 off a good friend.
the airport card was running fine until a full reinstall was done, now Tiger is claiming it doesnt exist, along with no bluetooth.
has anyone encountered this before, or know of any way around???
thanks for any help you can offer!

Just guessing it sounds like may have done a reinstall from a retail Tiger DVD rather than the Software Restore disc the G5 iMac may have originally shipped with.
The problem is that the Tiger retail disc might not contain the AirPort and Bluetooth drivers necessary for the hardware in your iMac.
If that's the case, the solution would be to do a clean install of Tiger from the Software Restore disc that originally shipped with the iMac.

Installing Tiger - a question for you...

When i install Tiger, using the 'Archive and Install' option - will my Photoshop CS, Illustrator CS, Itunes Music, VLC etc still be there when the machine boots up with the new OS?
I have backed up all my personal files, but just want to make sure I can rest easy knowing these files will still be there, happy waiting for me on reboot.
Please advise,
Thanks
Martin.

hi martin--
you will have to expect to lose the actual applications, and to have to reinstall them when you do an archive and install. however, the documents that you created with the applications will be preserved. here is an article which gives you detailed info about doing an archive and install. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120 it is important to do software update afterwards, otherwise certain things may not work properly. good luck. [ 8 ) ]

Extremely slow after reboot, reformat, Tiger-reinstall. Need new HDD?

Got the late 2006 white intel iMac 17" in feb 2007. It started a couple of weeks back from now with choppy flash video playback. So I tried removing flash plugin, reinstalling and then removing and reinstalling browsers. Did not work. So I decided to clean the apps a bit and used AppDelete or something like it to remove apps and files associated with them. Removed some widgets, parts of Adobe CS3 and other. Bad move apparently...
After an extremely long reboot everything was changed; it was as if I had 2 mb of RAM instead of my 2 GB (upgraded). I guess I had too many programs up and running at the same time, but something was wrong. Windows XP (Bootcamped) was functional but shared the problem; seemingly low RAM or extremely slow HDD. For example; I could easily play COD4 (lowest settings, but that was from before. Still topping the servers tho ;)), but switching between software was a pain.
So I formatted the mac partition and reinstalled Tiger. An install that took two full days ( ! ). This didn't solve the problem; as soon as the HDD need to write or read it freezes. Scrolling web-pages, installing software or buffering flash video takes obscene amounts of time.
Anyway, I formatted the intire drive including the "Win"-side, re-reinstalled Tiger (took me an entire week of coming home from work, inserting next disk, coming home from work the next day, finding an kernel panic (gray screen, restart text?), restarting) and here I am now. I have switched back to my initial 1 GB RAM just to see if the "new" RAM was the problem but it is still the same.
So my conclusion is that the HDD is failing. But the hardware check on the Tiger-disks came back OK. And how can the harddrive have been "damaged" from removing the wrong software and then rebooting? Or is this all just coincidence?
What should I do? I talked to the guys at the local Mac support center and they agreed on the HDD and said I should buy a new one and let them install it (for 168$, then I'd buy HDD elsewere for 100$ maybe).
Do YOU agree? Is there something I should try before putting out a lot of money? Smells like something for the warranty, but even for swedish laws it's too late (it's one year here).

With no insight whatsoever from the manufacturer of the copier, I reformatted the internal hard disk. Life is back to normal! Apparently these HDs get fragged just like any other, so a periodic reformatting may take care of sluggish performance. Either that or the original formatting of the internal HD wasn't "compatible" with OS X.

Panther to tiger upgrade questions.

I am getting an upgrade from work so I can have Tiger.
Should I backup before upgrading? How?
And if it does not work out, how can I revert back to 10.3?
Thanks~!

Should I backup before upgrading? How?
You should backup before installing anything new. You should backup before examining your machine for hardware or software trouble. You should backup after writing data that is important to you. Here's my backup FAQ*:
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
If you follow my cloning instructions there, you can just clone back your backup if the 10.4 upgrade doesn't work.
To upgrade to 10.4 you'll need to at least double your RAM to have effective speed. You'll also want at least 10 GB of free hard disk space. My upgrade FAQ* explains other things you need to watch out for:
http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html
P.S. Please note this is the PowerMac G4, for tower G4 computers, and not Powerbook G4 computer like in your profile. If indeed you have a Powerbook G4, and not a PowerMac G4, and I can't answer your question, please post further questions about it in the Powerbook forum that is relevant after identifying your computer using my FAQ*:
http://www.macmaps.com/macosxnative.html#IDENTIFY
Powerbook forums are in this category:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=120
To distinguish categories from forums, please read this user tip:
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Final Cut Pro Compatability with OS 10.4 Tiger - Easy Question

Right now I am cutting a feature film on Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD, OS Panther (10.3.9). As soon as I'm done with this project, I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.4 because I will be cutting a new feature in HDV (24p footage using HDVxDV to digitize and convert to DVCPRO HD).
My question is this...does Final Cuto Pro 4.5 work in OS 10.4? Or do I HAVE TO get the Final Cut Pro 5 upgrade in order for FCP to work in Tiger?
Thanks for the help.
PowerMac G5, 2gHz, 2GB RAM Mac OS X (10.3.9) 500 GB G-RAID x4, Canopus ADVC-110, Sony DSR-45
G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I switched because I wanted to use the MultiCam, plus for the integration with Shake (which I use extensively) and in the bigger picture, I wanted Motion 2 over Motion 1, so it made sense to upgrade to Final Cut Studio.
But if you're looking for any BIG changes in the user interface or effects, etc, don't mess with your smooth functioning system. FCP 5 introduced a new RT system that causes interruptions in playback during shuttling when the mouse is moved and from general anecdotes is just not as smooth as in prior revs.
For me, I'm happy I upgraded, but if it doesn't bring you any features you're looking for, you should probably stay with the system you're happy with.
Patrick

Reformat/Reinstall Question re Panther

Hi and sorry for any duplication of this questionin other posts.
I need to reformat a 160G HD in my Dual Boot G4. OSX 10.3.9
must be reinstalled. It is too late to use clone apps like SuperDuper because the drive was unfortunately already erased, and a manual drag-back of the entire contents of the
backed-up contents of the HD was performed, leaving missing
invisible files missing. Hence, System 9 Folder seems to be okay, but, for OSX apps there are certain apps - mainly browser/
email, which i would prefer to retain the original settings, and,
migrate existing email folder contents (inbox/sent box etc).
The browser is Netscape 7.2.
If possible i'd prefer to simply drag/drop over anything that i can
after wiping and reinstalling/updating the HD system back up to 10.3.9. I also assume that for my Sys. 9 folder (dual-bootable MDD) i can do a clean install and drag/drop prefs manually for the various apps within the OS 9 domain which i boot into independent and separately of OSX operation.
I'm looking for the shortest path by which to accomplish this
reinstall and to minimize the amount of individual application
reinstallations from scratch...wherever i can drag existing apps
and associated Prefs into the right places within OSX Panther.
Any advice much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

Cornelius, thanks and i will try to clarify as concisely
as possible;
Does this HDD have anything on it currently?<<
Yes, the HD does have elements of the previous OSX System
but will not boot from OSX (a result of the "drag-back" of
backed up content, along with my OS 9 Folder, rather than
being able to successfully use SuperDuper or other clone
app....
Do I understand that you backed up the HDD in question by copy by dragging to a backup drive, erased HDD and copied stuff back by dragging?<< </div>
Yes. As such, System 9 FOlder/Contents seems to be fine
having done it that way, but i recognize why OSX does not.
Are you planning to erase the drive again, install Panther, and repeat the process of copying by dragging?<<</div>
I want to erase/reformat the drive again, and reinstall Panther using proper Disk-Set procedure of restore/reinstall
but save original prefs of as much of the previous system(s)
apps (for both OS 9 and OS X) i want to save/preserve..
presumably having to do so by manual drag where possible.
Does this mean you want to repeat the process which you have already performed?<< </div>
No, just whatever can be salvaged for individual application
preferences, most importantly, Browser/Email (bookmarks,
inbox/address books, mail settings prefs)- within BOTH
systems... I would like to preserve, rather than having to
a) re-enter User Prefs, Mail Settings and also need to
keep existing Email in the respective browser mail apps.
Other apps, i can take the time to reinstall and re-enter
registration data.
I hesitate to make assumptions in terms of what you are doing. However, backing up and restoring by copying by dragging, while it works for simple data files, for some typs of apps, and for OS 9 System Folder and OS 9 Applications folder, will not give you the desired outcomes for other types of files. In OS X there are hidden files which are essential to the efficient functioning of the OS that cannot be copied by dragging.<<</div>
My questions above is to ascertain exactly what you have done so far and what the current situation is. We can then take it from there to see what can be done next to minimize the damage and enable you to recover in the best way possible.<<
I totally understand. the entire situation as it stands
happened due to some anomaly whereby using CarbonCopyCloner
(and SuperDuper before that) was sidetracked because both
programs reported inability to recopy "All Files" back to
the Drive (error message to that effect). To get back up and running in OS 9, I then just dragged OS 9 System back
onto the HD and have been using that environment only.
Soo, the bottom line is, i need to erase the HD and reinstall it all...but want to save whatever prefs i can
in the proper fashion. (Far more familiar with doing so in
OS 9 stuff than OSX)
Hope that addresses where i'm at with this and appreciate
your help.

System reinstall question

i've got a (new) late 2011 macbook pro, bought it on sale at future shop. when i did the migration data transfer assistant from my old mac to the new one, something got messed up. so now i have to wipe my late 2011 macbook pro clean and start fresh. i'm not quite sure how to do this since the old os versions always came with a cd.
i have a mountain lion installer on a thumb drive. can i boot my 2011 macbook pro from the thumb drive and use disk utility to reformat and then install a clean system directly from the thumb drive?
sorry for the newbie questions.

Boot into recovery mode, launch Disk Utility, wipe the HD, reinstall Lion, and on first boot follow the steps in Pondini's Setup New Mac guide to migrate properly. This assumes you still have the old Mac.

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