Tiger to leopard to snow leopard? HELP!

I have a 2007 MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, only 1GB of memory) Purchased a new Ipod touch. Could not upgrade to itunes 10.5. Found out this was a common problem. I went into the Genius bar and they told me that I needed to upgrade to Leopard first, do all the updates, before I can upgrade to snow leopard. I'm seeing a few things on here that say otherwise. So, do I need to buy leopard and if so does it need to be just 10.5 because I'm also seeing 10.5.4? Leopard is going for $140-$299!
I have already purchase two 2GB memory sticks to replace what I have. They are in the mail. Will that extra memory allow me to go straight to snow leopard?
So confused! As you can see, not tec savvy. I just want to use my need Ipod touch

You do not have to upgrade to Leopard in order to upgrade to Snow Leopard. 1 GB of RAM is the minimum requirement ot install Snow Leopard, so upgrading to 4 GBs is a good idea. It prepares you to go to Lion should you decide to do so.
My recommendation follows, but for your situation I would highly recommend that you not only back up your current system. I also suggest you erase your hard drive before installing Snow Leopard rather than upgrading over the Tiger system because it is more likely to produce a reliable system. Afterwards you can restore your data from the backup.
How to Install OS X Updates Successfully
A. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions:
Boot from your current OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
B. Make a Bootable Backup Using Restore Option of Disk Utility:
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the external backup drive. Source means the internal startup drive.
C. Important: Please read before installing:
If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. To upgrade:
Purchase the Snow Leopard Retail DVD.
Boot From The OS X Installer Disc:
Insert OS X Installer Disc into the optical drive.
Restart the computer.
Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "C" key.
Release the key when the spinning gear below the dark gray Apple logo appears.
Wait for installer to finish loading.
E. If updating:
Download and install update(s)
Use Software Update, or
Download standalone updater(s).

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SuchGreatHeights wrote:
Hey Guys,
i only want to use the mouse and keyboard, perhabs there is a way to use it on OS X 10.4.11?
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Message was edited by: Gary Sumlak

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