Tiger to Snow Leopard install and back up help

Hi all. First off I am a complete noob when it comes to Mac.
I recently purchased a new imac with Snow Leopard and have been enjoying learning it.
Out of the blue I had an opportunity to buy a late 2006 Macbook at a great price so I went for it. Its a Intel based Mac using Tiger.
I want to upgrade this OS to Snow Leopard and need some guidance.
I have done some research and have determined that I should be able to do this by purchasing the $30 disc rather than the box set with ilife.
I am a bit confused regarding the back up and install procedure however.
After buying the macbook I successfully upgraded the hard drive from the 80gig to a 320 gig using the free download of Super Duper to clone the entire drive. There are a lot of YouTube videos and post outlining this and it went without any problem.
(there doesn't seem to be as much info for upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard out there plus I have read some people have had problems)
So I need a back up and install plan.
Can I use Super Duper for this? It seems to me that cloning would duplicate everything including the Tiger OS so I would expect that there may be conflicts? Or does Super Duper have another copying function.(it does not have any help files)
Here is what I have to work with.
The original 80 gig HD and an enclosure. A new untouched 500 gig external drive.
Original Tiger install disc's and soon to be purchased Snow Leopard disc.
FYI the Macbook has no personal files or 3rd party apps that I need to keep. I have only done test uploads of pictures and video to test the all the ports and drives etc.
I do however need to keep all the included apps like iphoto, tunes etc .especially imovie 06 HD
A bit off topic but if successful I want to download imovie 11 but still keep 06 HD. Can I use both on the same machine?
Thanks

The reason to back up is so when you do the installation of the new system if anything goes wrong you can back out of it. Is your backup drive bootable? Although technically almost all models are if you cloned the internal, some Western Digital enclosures aren't. See if the external shows up as a boot alternative in Startup disks preferences, and actually try booting from it.
So let's say you have a bootable clone of your internal on the external. You can now just update the OS on the internal using your SL disc. If all goes well it should only replace system files. If there is a problem you can always clone your external back to the internal and start over.
I don't know about 2 versions of iMovie. I don't use it but in general those more involved applications don't like multiple versions. In particular the new version might want to overwrite the preferences file for the old version, which the old version subsequently would baulk at using. There may also be plugin version issues, etc. I'd post this as a separate question on the iMovie forum.
Things worth reading:
Snow Leopard 10.6 Technical Requirements - [http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs> - [note by K Shaffer|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID= 12921514#12921514]: "Some early Intel-based Macs can't use Snow Leopard 10.6 installers;of those, the Core Duo (not 2 duo) were suspect and had issues." - and a [qualifier by +a brody+|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=13028822#13028822]: "I think that refers to the ones without at least 1 GB of RAM."
A Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Application Compatibility List - [http://snowleopard.wikidot.com>

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