Tiger to Snow Leopard without disk

Hello everyone,
The hard drive on my 2.16 ghz white MacBook just gave up the ghost. Luckily, my computer fit the specs to have Apple replace it for free.
Earlier this year, I upgraded to Snow Leopard. I am currently living in Germany and didn't bring my Snow Leopard disk with me (obviously didn't think I would need it). I didn't think it would be a big deal, but when I got my computer back I realized many of the programs, including Adobe, don't run on 10.4.
So I was wondering if there was any way to upgrade to Snow Leopard without having to buy another disk. The disks that I've found over here are more than in the US and I can't shell out the money for that right now (poor student budget).
I would really love any tips that you could offer. Thank you!

Why Apple does what it does is something only Apple knows for sure, but consider that:
• To provide for what you suggest, there would have to be a unique serial or registration number or some similar way to prove that you did buy Snow Leopard, & it would have to be provided with every sale. This would be a hassle for Apple, for resellers, & for users.
• A disk failure is a rare event. Installing or upgrading to Snow Leopard is not. It is even rarer for users to have a disk failure & no access to their Snow Leopard installer disc.
• The OS installer still has to be obtained. Even if you could use a registration number (if you had that with you) to gain access to a secure site to download an image of the installer disc, you would still have to have access to a working Mac (with a functional copy of the Mac OS on it) to use the image file. Plus, you are looking at over 5 GB of installer data, a very large download.
• Your system discs are an essential part of your computer. They not only allow you to format & reinstall the OS but also are the only source for reinstalling bundled applications like iLife (which do not come with retail copies of Snow Leopard or Leopard) & for running the Apple Hardware Test.
• The Apple software license already allows you to maintain one backup copy of each of your Apple installer discs. If you travel, it is a good idea to take a backup copy of the essential discs with you. Not much help for you now I know, but something to remember for the future.

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    Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Date/Time: 2009-09-10 10:36:12.446 -0700
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