Tiger upgrade from 10.2.8 - never got "ARchive and Install" option?

I selected the destination. Selected "customize" to add additional software to install. And then clicked whatever was next - sorry don't remember exact button name but it was the next step. AND THEN IT HAPPENED - the install. I noticed that it said "upgrade" for software under the custom install so at least something was recognized. BUT I wanted to select "archive and Install" and "Preserve Users and Network Settings". So am I now hosed? I guess I'll find out in about 10 minutes when its all done but I'm very confused / upset as I read EVERYTHING in advance to make sure this would go smoothly. So why didn't I get that screen as listed in the documentation? GRRRR

Hello rstwohee:
You should be OK. A&I is an option - why you did not see the option is a function of what you did - and neither of us have any way of determining that.
Run permission repair after the upgrade. Also, it would not hurt to run disk repair from yoru software install DVD.
Barry

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