Tiger vs jag

i have decided to make the leap to Tiger from 10.3.9.....i would appreciate any input from current Tiger users....mainly...should i don it now? or wait for continued debugging.
I am preparing to start a hugh project and since my 10.3.9 runs so slow....am wondering if Tiger runs better/faster.

hey jim,
i am one of those MAC people that have always
thought that!!! ....yeeks!!!....so at the risk of
sounding stupid....how do i defrag a MAC?
First, find out if you really need to defrag. Go here:
http://www.coriolis-systems.com/
And download a demo version of Defrag. You can't defrag with the demo version but it will examine all your disks and give you a detailed description of how much fragmentation there is.
Tiger does have it's own system that defrags on the fly as you work, but it's not perfect so you might build up fragmentation over time, but it shouldn't be too serious. Where you really need defragging is if you've beenb using the same hard drive for a long time, including with older version of OSX, or even OS9. Or if you use very large files, Tiger doesn't defrag past a certain file size, so if you are doing high resolution graphics or movies or anything that creates big files then you might need defragging. But Defrag Demo will tell you what condition your drives are in, then it only costs $30 to buy it if you need it.
You can defrag with Tech Tool Pro. It's more expensive but it does many more things, including repair and hardware verification. I haven't liked Tech Tool much in the past but their latest update seems to have improved the program tremendously, to the point where I'm almost willing to recommend it.
Drive Genius will also defrag along with several other things but I haven't been too impressed with it overall.
Nothing beats Disk Warrior for rebuilding the directory, which is where most of your problems will be but it is a on e trick pony and does nothing else.

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    Authentic: Yes
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    Message was edited by: joeldm

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