Tiger vs Panther

1- I work for a design company in Quebec City and today we bought the new 20-in iMac G5. My coworkers are using Panther and i'm using Tiger. I'm wandering if it will be a problem sharing files
2- To prevent that I tried to install Panther on my iMac G5 and it seems impossible. I want to know why?
Thank you

I wouldn't mess with Panther on your new machine Tiger works just fine.
I doubt that you will have any problems sharing files.
I would upgrade the other Macs to Tiger and not downgrade a new Mac.
Richard
1.25 GHz Dual G4 Desk Top Mac OS X (10.4.3)

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Mark:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
You can try using Pacifist to extract Safari from your install disk and install it. You may then be able to upgrade it more easily, although I can't promise that for sure.
Unless you are absolutely wedded to Safari, I find Camino to be at least as good (I think better) as Safari, and looks almost identical, so that there should not be much of a learning curve. I also use Firefox and especially like it for the measure of security it provides.
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I have a G3 Wallstreet Powerbook with
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192Mb RAM
400 MHz processor
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I have access to all OSX's and can borrow a external DVD drive to install them with. I am wondering which would be the most useful for my situation. Also, just wondering if Panther comes on a CD, so I don't have to borrow the external DVD Drive.
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No processor upgrades are available for your model.
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Need to Downgrade from Tiger to Panther

I'm selling my iMac and need to downgrade it from Tiger to Panther, which originally came with the system. How do I go about doing this? In the process I also need to erase everything on my hard drive. Can I perform the downgrading from the original Panther installation cds, or erase the hard drive using those cds and reinstalling Panther from there?

Hello Kelly.
You need to backup all data first and use the Panther install package that shipped with this Mac and reformat the hard drive zeroing all data. Be sure to select HFS+ (or extended) with Journaling enabled when reformatting the hard drive. Instructions for zeroing all data included with this link.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107437
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When the buyer starts up the computer for the first time, he/she will be greeted with the computer setup assistant and you should include the Panther install package that shipped with this Mac as part of the sale.

Wont let me install tiger on panther on the hard drive

Hello,
I recently obtained a 14" 800mhz ibook g3 with 256 mb of ram from a friend. The reason that they gave it to me in the first place becuase the hard drive crashed and they never bothered fix it. When I got I turned it on, the drive spun up then the computer shut down. I inserted a tiger install cd from my imac g5 and booted from the disk. When the installer ran it told me that tiger could not be installed on this disk. I went to disk utility and tried to repair the disk and it failed every time, erased it, partitioned it, tried everything. I finally convinced my self that the hd was shot. So I went out and bought a 60gb notebook hard drive and installed it myself. Once installed I booted from the tiger cd and ran the installer. It told me that the software was not able to be installed on this computer. I dont know why is said that it the computer seems to meet the specs of tiger. Well I also tried to install panther, when I ran the installer and got to the drive selection screen there was my new hard drive but there was a red stop sign with an exclimation mark on the bottom right and corner of the drive icon. Becuase of this it would not let me continue. I ran disk utility and repaired and everything. I am stumped. Please help me. I am also not sure what version of osx is on there because the owner does not know.
Again the machine is a...
ibook g3 800 mhz
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Thanks
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Are you sure you have the hard drive set as master? There are jumper settings for the hard drive that may not be set correctly.
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Although my machine excedes the minimum requirements for Tiger, I have held off on upgrading for a long time, because when it first came out, I heard reports that it was much slower than Panther on older macs.
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My iMac used to be able to play DVD Movies as well, but something happened to the DVD-ROM drive so that the DVD Player won't even work. Is there some way I can fix just that issue to get the Tiger disc working or do I have to go through a big complicated restoration mess?

This is kind of odd, going back and forth between my posts... Anyway, it doesn't say Drop-in Upgrade DVD, just the CPU Drop In DVD.
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Tiger to Panther ok, reverse doesn't work

Hi, I can do a video chat perfectly when I initiate it from my Tiger PB (last version) to a Panther eMac (last version), but it doesn't work when the other party tries to initiate it with me. I get the invitation, I accept and then wait and wait and ... nothing is happening. Any idea?

Hi Jean,
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Tiger v panther on G4 ibook

esp for wireless connectivity (big troubles with verizon dsl).
wondering if upgrading helps with speed of machine in general as well as wifi stuff.
thanks

Wireless connectivity issues can happen because of a variety of issues, from setting the channel right, to whether or not interference robustness is on (sometimes turning it off improves things, while other times turning it on does), router firmware version, other 2.4 Ghz frequency emitters nearby, encryption standard used may not be the best programmed version on that router (though I'd stick to some form of 128 bit encryption), to whether or not the wires are loose and card inside the notebook are firmly seated. As such, you should try your wireless connection elsewhere and see if it is different in strength. That way you can tell if the issue is software or hardware related and internal or external.
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http://www.macmaps.com/WIFI1048.html
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I wanted to upgrade from Panther 10.3.9 on my Powerbook G4 667/40GB 15 inch to Tiger 10.4.6 from a blackbox CD. It said install successful but when I restarted, the boot was slow and it ended up frozen with a blank blue screen, no desktop icons or dock, and just a Spotlight icon in the upper left, spinning wheel on rollover.
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Hello macyue:
Welcome to Apple discussions.
I am not being critical, but your post is a good advertisement for having a good backup/retreat strategy before software changes.
Given the steps you have documented, there is really no way to determine what happened when to your system.
Did you use the full retail version of OS X when you attempted to upgrade? Did you use the migration feature?
Where do you want to wind up?
Barry
P.S. Your problems are much greater than a Safari issue.
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Freezing in Leopard, Tiger and Panther

Hi, I'm pretty new to Macs, so excuse any of my possible ignorance. I searched in the forum, but could not find any topic specifically answering my question.
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Anyway, I decided that maybe I should run a clean install on Leopard. After all, I didn't really care about any of the stuff on my friend's hard drive. But no. That didn't solve anything. I then proceeded to go to my disk utility and repair the disk and the permissions. THAT didn't solve it, either.
Finally I figured, "OK, maybe my version of Leopard is just corrupt". I did a clean install and reverted to Tiger. For about five minutes, I was happy...until it froze once again. So then I was like, "Screw it, I'll just try Panther". Nope. It seemed to freeze more and more the more I downgraded.
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Hello,
I have been having some freezing issues the past few weeks on my G5 tower. It happened after the last major update, even had a few kernel panics. I searched around the forums here and found the easiest fix for me which was running AppleJack http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/07/beijing2008_preparationsthre.html
If you follow the instructions very closely you might get some relief. I ran it yesterday afternoon and so far, (keeping fingers crossed) no problems.
I know we have differing equipment, but AppleJack will work with many Mac OS X versions.
You have to completely shut down, then roboot holding down the 'command' and 's' keys after the first chime upon boot. When screen is up, then type in 'applejack auto restart' - it starts to clean up your system and checks and repairs disks. (will automatically restart computer after fixing all) Best to read all the directions before trying.
Good luck. Let us know if it works.
ps, i'm running Tiger, 10.4.11

2001 laptop: will it be better off with Tiger or Panther?

My dad has my old 15" Apple laptop (bought in 2001 or so). It's running Panther now, and is quite sluggish. I'm wondering: if I bring it up to Tiger, will it be even slower (if Tiger requires more performance) or better (if Tiger is somehow leaner and more efficient than Panther)?
Mike

If you have or are willing to learn some experience with using clone utilities,
the external hard disk drive in FireWire enclosure is where the content of
the computer's nearly full drive could be moved via clone; freeing the internal
and allowing the option for a clean sweep of the internal hard disk drive of
the Mini (or any other) by using Disk Utility (Tiger's) from the install disc to
later wipe the drive, overwrite it with zeros, reformat it, and make sure it is
healthy and ready for an all new system.
You can get decent clone utilities that run free, via download online; the
two fairly well known ones are Carbon Copy Cloner and Super Duper.
New versions of both appear to offer some good controls over how the
clone is made and also in re-cloning the bootable copy back to the Mac
from an external at some point, if you have partitions on the external FW
HDD; it can then support multiple clones of your computer's full content.
{Since Tiger retail installer disc does not include the later versions of iLife
a computer installer software packet for a new computer shipped with Tiger
would have included, if you expect to continue using iPhoto, GarageBand,
iDVD or iMovie (as hardware permits) the iLife 06 may be the one to get.
Since iLife 09 and 08 may present issues in older computers lacking the
correct specification hardware to support the needs of later iLife versions.}
By avoiding the older Panther (a new install from scratch and no upgrade
over the Panther original system; to forgo the Mini's original software) is
the best way to have Tiger in a computer. The installation is much cleaner
and the system parts are correct; as some Panther parts carried forward
in an upgrade and install to Tiger may remain and not be the better ones.
On the other hand, reasons to consider a clone of the older Panther
system on the external drive, is that can boot the computer and all the
older stuff could run better in that more empty hard disk drive; and so
could all the older iLife apps in Panther; plus AppleWorks, and other apps.
Camino browser works well in Mac OS X from 10.3.9 to current versions.
The Opera browser may offer satisfactory support, back to Panther. The
best option is to work on upgrading the slow older computer's hardware
so it can support Tiger as good as it can; if you can find and buy the
OS X family pack for 10.4.x and then get the standalone updates for it;
you can save having to duplicate downloads of all those parts.
The 2001 'Book, may do adequately; if given all the RAM it can support
(see http://mactracker.ca for various machine specifications) and at a
point in the future, a larger hard drive inside it may be worth the effort.
A family-pack Tiger installer could be a less costly way to install a full
new system from scratch in the computers and also have a bootable
installer disc for later maintenance and support of the resulting systems.
In any event...
Good luck & happy computing!
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Upgrade to Tiger from panther

Can anyone help me? We have upgraded our software from Panther to Tiger and now can not log into the main account, therefore can not access any applications or email. The machine has two partitions if that has anything to do with it.
Can anyone help?

Hello boing:
Welcome to Apple discussions.
Partitioning an internal HD on a Mac is, IMHO, both a waste of time and potential trouble. Answer, yes it could be related. However, you did not say how you upgraded or what you used to upgrade (full retail version).
I assume you do not have a bootable backup of your previous system ( avery good procedure before any updates).
If you can provide more details, someone here may be able to help.
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