Time Capsule & AirPort Extreme Update

If we have Time Capsule do we need to install the AirPort Extreme Update (version 1.0) that's available via SoftWare Update, or is this for standalone AirPort Extreme only?
I imagine it's applicable for both, but as I didn't see it spelled out as such, I'm a bit hesitant to go ahead.
Thanks in advance for the clarification.
~ john

Hi Mike,
according to the page you linked, this firmware update is only applicable *"for late 2009 AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule"*
There seems to be no direct download link. Maybe to avoid confusion.
Do you have one of those ?
If not this won't work.
If yes, then use these instructions http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1218 to update using the Airport Utility (which you should update to 5.51 before).
Hope it helps
Stefan
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Setup a wired network between Time Capsule, Airport Extreme and Express

I currently have a Time Capsule, Airport Extreme N and an Airport Express N. They are currently connected wirelessly via the "extend network" mode. So I do have wireless connection throughout my home but I notice that it is slow especially compared to gigabit Ethernet. I now like to do the same but then connect the three devices over Ethernet as I have on each floor also Ethernet connections available that are connected via a wired switch.
How can I configure the three devices in such a way that they use the gigabit Ethernet wired connections as their "backbone" and then give wireless access to each floor as if it is one wireless network, and where I can connect other wired gigabit devices via the time capsule and airport extreme Ethernet ports?
I have one Internet connection that comes via Ethernet from my cable modem. This is now connected to my time capsule who creates the internal network and assigns internal IP addresses.
Can anybody advise how to configure each device? And to which ethernet port I should Airport Extreme?
Thanks
Alexander

Welcome to the discussion area, Alexander!
+How can I configure the three devices in such a way that they use the gigabit Ethernet wired connections as their "backbone" and then give wireless access to each floor as if it is one wireless network, and where I can connect other wired gigabit devices via the time capsule and airport extreme Ethernet ports?+
You will be setting up what is known as a "roaming" network using the etherent backbone for your network. This will produce the best possible bandwidth on your network for both ethernet and wireless connections.
_On the Time Capsule_
Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Remove the check mark next to "Allow this network to be extended" (This is only checked if you are extending your network using wireless only and you will be using ethernet to connect your devices, not wireless).
Update to save changes and the Time Capsule configuration is complete.
_On the AirPort Extreme_
Connect an ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule to your ethernet switch. Then connect another ethernet connection from the switch to the WAN (circle icon) port on the AirPort Extreme.
Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network (Not extend as you might think. Extend is only used if the Time Capsule and AirPort Express are connecting using wireless only)
Wireless Network Name = Exact same name as your AirPort Extreme wireless network
Radio Mode = Same setting as your AirPort Extreme
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Exact same setting as your AirPort Extreme wireless network
Wireless Password = Same password as your AirPort Extreme wireless
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save changes and configuration is complete
_On the AirPort Express_
You can connect an ethernet cable from the switch..or..from one of the LAN <-> ports on either the Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme, whichever is easier.
Set it up exactly the same as the AirPort Extreme above and update to save changes.
Power off the Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express for a few moments. Then power up the Time Capsule first and let it run a moment, then power up the AirPort Extreme and then the AirPort Express.
If you have a laptop running Leopard or Snow Leopard, you can move your computer around and check to see which device it is connecting to for wireless. Hold down the option key while you click on the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen and look for the BSSID. That is the AirPort ID of the device to which you are connected at the time.
To get the AirPort ID of each of your Apple routers, open AirPort Utility and click on a device on the left. On the right, you'll see the AirPort ID for that device.
For ethernet connections, you can plug into an available port on the switch, the Time Capsule, or the AirPort Extreme.
You should be all set. Please post back on your progress.

I have a time machine backup file on a USB hard drive. I bought a time capsule / airport extreme, flat 3TB. I wish to transfer the backup file from the usb hard drive to the time capsule hard drive. 10.6.8

I have a time machine backup file on a USB hard drive. I bought a time capsule / airport extreme, flat 3TB. I wish to transfer the backup file from the usb hard drive to the time capsule hard drive. 10.6.8

Unfortunately, Time Machine backups that are stored on a drive that has been connected directly to a Mac are completely different than Time Machine backups that are stored on a Time Capsule.
Frankly, it is not worth the effort and trouble to try to transfer the old backups to the new Time Capsule.....my opinion....having done this in the past.
It is possible though, but I would not recommend it due to the complexity and downsides involved with this. To give you an idea of how to do this, check out this support article.
http://pondini.org/TM/18.html
Even if you transfer the "old" backups over to the Time Capsule successfully, Time Machine will not simply "add on" to the old backups.
Time Machine will make a new complete backup of your Mac and then add incremental backups from that point.
My advice.....start a new backup on the Time Capsule and move forward. Keep the USB hard drive around for a month, maybe 2 or 3 in case you need to go back to an old backup for some reason. At that time, you will not likely need the old backups at all since you will have a current 2-3 month history of new backups. At that point, you can erase the USB drive and use it for another purpose.

Time Capsule/Airport Extreme is the same as a Netgear router, right?

Idiotic question, I know. I just wanted to be sure before I bought it. I have Comcast cable internet and I'm leasing one of their Netgear Wireless Cable Modem Gateway - CG814WG routers. That router is horrible (the connection dies when my wife is on her computer and I'm playing Halo 3) and I want to replace it with Time Capsule so I can have a better connection with my computers and XBox 360. The Time Capsule/Airport Extreme can replace my Netgear with no problems, right? I believe I'll have a much better network experience without losing connection like I did with my Netgear.
Side note: The internet feed to the house is fine. My cable tv is fine and the line is good, so I'm figuring it has to be the horrible router since everyone else has complained about that model from Netgear as well. I'm just hoping Time Capsule will be my ultimate replacement.

Excellent. I did contact my ISP and cross-referenced their list with the bestselling cable modems on Amazon.com. Looks like the Motorola SB5120 Surfboard modem works great. It also has an ethernet port and cable so I guess that'll connect easily to Time Capsule since you said I only need an ethernet cable.
I guess I might have to make sure the initial setup goes good, in which case I might be back here to make sure I did that right.
Thanks for the help though. At least I'll know that I'll have the right hardware that works with everything I have.
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Guest network feature of Time Capsule/Airport Extreme in conflict with DNS on OS X Server?

Hi, I want use the guest network feature of Time Capsule/Airport Extreme which requires an external DNS server but my OS X Server is the dns server...Can I configure server and airport with an external dns without messing up my OS server?
Thx Ron

If you want to use the guest network while also using your server for DNS - you will need to do the following: It's a bit painful - but it works.
On your Airport Device (Airport Extreme or Time Capsule) - in the Internet tab you will need to do one of the following:
1) Leave the DNS Servers Blank - which they will default to the DNS servers provided by your ISP.
2) Actually enter your ISP's DNS servers.
3) Enter Open DNS servers (I use 208.67.222.222 / 208.67.220.220).
The DNS servers specified in the airport device must be internet routable addresses (if you are going to use the guest network functionality) - and cannot refer to private ip address (e.g. 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x, etc).
Here is the painful part...on all of the devices (Macs, PCs, phones, ipads - that will be used on your "private" network 10.0.1.x - you will need to provide static DNS setting (but still allow DHCP to assign the devices IP address). You will specify 10.0.1.13 as primary DNS and 208.267.222.222 (or your ISP's primary DNS IP).
One you do this - your devices that you permanently use on your local network - will still use your server for DNS - and the external DNS - should your DNS server happen to be down.
Anyone visiting your house - will connect to your guest network - and automatically be DHCP assigned a guest IP address - and the external DNS servers that you specified in the Airport Extreme device.
This has been working great for me. I suspect that the guest network functionality is flawed in the Airport Extreme/Express and Time Capsule. Since I do not have another router that provides a guest network - I cannot say whether this issues is limited to the Airport devices - or whether this workaround would need to be done - regardless of which brand of router is providing the guest network.
In a nutshell - your household permanent devices will have to specify static DNS servers - but your guests will connect seamlessly without having to change and risk messing up any of their device settings.
If this solution works for you - Please be sure to click either "This solved my problem" or "This helped me".

Time Capsule --- Airport extreme ---- 2 airport express en wds

Hi,
I created a wds network for my house.
I set the timecapsule as the main base and set the aiport extreme and two airport express as remote.
My problem is that everything is working well except for the second airport express. I checked everything and the second airport express is set exactly like the first one and each ones is listed in the main one.... So why it is not working for the second one? Is there a maximum of remote airport express allowed as remote base stations??
Thanks in advance

Hello, catburlow.
If I understand correctly, your network setup is like this:
Internet <---wired---> Time Capsule <~~~WiFi~~~> Extreme <~~~WiFi~~~> Express #1 <~~~WiFi~~~> Express #2
…where Express #2 is wirelessly connected to Express #1, not to the Extreme. Is this correct?
If so, you may need to set up the first AirPort Express as a relay instead of a remote.
Also, if all your AirPorts support 802.11n, there's a much easier alternative to WDS:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=AirPortUtility/5.1/en/ap2124.html

Time Capsule / AirPort Extreme Base Station Firmware Update 7.5.1 download?

Hi, I went to this page (link below) hoping to find the firmware download link but can't find it. All I see is the software update. I need the firmware update 7.5.1 for Airport extreme. Can someone send me the correct link?
Thanks,
Mike
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL965

Hi Mike,
according to the page you linked, this firmware update is only applicable *"for late 2009 AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule"*
There seems to be no direct download link. Maybe to avoid confusion.
Do you have one of those ?
If not this won't work.
If yes, then use these instructions http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1218 to update using the Airport Utility (which you should update to 5.51 before).
Hope it helps
Stefan
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Time capsule airport extreme and airport express set up question

I have all three
Can I use the 3rd generation airport extreme then setup roaming network by connecting using Ethernet to a 4th generation time capsule and then use the airport extreme to extend the 2.4ghz network wirelessly or do I have to use the time capsule as primary?
What should the settings be to get then talking correctly?
My issue is I get weak 2.4ghz reception in the back of my apartment, my 5ghz speeds are great.

To connect your Mac to the modem you may need to reset your modem to convince it to connect to a "new" device. Depending on the model of modem, that can be as easy as removing power for a few moments. If that doesn't work, remove power and wait 15 minutes. Further reset steps can involve pressing a "reset" button or removing a battery if the modem has one. In the worst case, your ISP may need to edit its settings to update to the MAC address of the new router. If they won't or can't do that, powering down the modem for 16 to 36 hours can reset the connection.

Creating network using Time Capsule, Airport Extreme and Airport Express

Hello,
Yesterday I purchased the 4th Gen Time Capsule to replace my Airport Extreme (4th gen) as my "main" router. However, I want to repurpose my Airport Extreme to extend the network AND use the Ethernet ports to connect additional devices. I will then use my Airport Express solely to "join the network" for Airplay purposes.
I connected the Time Capsule directly to my cable modem using Ethernet. I set up the Time capsule in Airport, checked the "allow this network to be extended" and used WPA2 Personal encryption. I then set up the Airport Extreme to "join an existing network" wirelessly and mimic the same network name, encryption type and password. Finally, I set up the aiport express as I mentioned above.
This setup does a great job of extending my network with increased performance. However, when I plug my Mac into the Airport Extreme using ethernet, it does not recognize. This Mac IS connected via Aiport. However, under the "ethernet" option in the Network Menu, it says "No IP Address Found."
I've searched some other forums and thought this configuration would work. Also, I apologize if this seems like and amateur post. This is my first time using the Apple support Community.
Thank you

I set up the Time capsule in Airport, checked the "allow this network to be extended" and used WPA2 Personal encryption
Those are the correct settings for the "main" router.
I then set up the Airport Extreme to "join an existing network" wirelessly and mimic the same network name, encryption type and password
The AirPort Extreme does not provide any additional wireless coverage and the Ethernet ports are not enabled if the device is configured to "join a wireless network"
Check your setttings using AirPort Utility - Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab located just below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Extend a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Same name as the Time Capsule wireless network
Enter a check mark next to "Allow wireless clients"
Wireless Security = Same setting as the Time Capsule wireless network
Wireless Password = Same password at the Time Capsule wireless network
Confirm Password
Click Update at the lower right and allow 25-30 seconds for the AirPort Extreme to restart.
Configured correctly, the AirPort Extreme will extend the wireless network and the Ethernet ports on the Extreme will be enabled.
I good starting location for the extending device is a location about 1/2 to 2/3 the distance from the main router to the area that needs more wireless coverage.
Once you have the AirPort Extreme configured and working correctly, post back if you would like a tip to find out exactly which device....your Time Capsule or the AirPort Extreme that your laptop is connected to at any given location.

Time capsule/AirPort Extreme/Ethernet networking

I am using an AirPort Extreme connected to my router. I also have an Time Capsule connected to the same network. I am using two NoteBook Mac's, one a MBP 233 with 802.11n, and a PowerBook 1.25 with an 802.11g card. I am having no problems networking but would like to be able to use an entirely 802.11n network. I have connected an Ethernet cable between the Time Capsule and AP Extreme, and from the AP Extreme to the PowerBook.
Is there a way to set up my network so as to run only 802.11n and get the PowerBook to be accessed by Ethernet doing away with the need to have the two AirPorts units to have to be set up with 802.11g/n setting? This would allow me to enable me to use the faster 802.11n networking.
Thank you Network Pros.

Thanks for the clarification. In your current network configuration both the AEBSn and the TC are creating their own 802.11n wireless networks. In essence, the TC is on a different subnet than the AEBSn's network. In this configuration any device connected to the TC, either by Ethernet or wirelessly, cannot be accessed by devices connected to the AEBSn, and vice-versa. If this is not your intent, then the TC needs to be reconfigured as a bridge. This will allow the AEBSn to provide both NAT & DHCP services for both networks.
To set up the TC as a bridge, either connect to the TC's wireless network or temporarily connect your computer directly (using an Ethernet cable) to one of the LAN port of the TC, and then, using the AirPort Utility, make these settings:
Internet - Internet Connection tab
o Connection Sharing: Off (Bridge Mode)
o Click Update to apply the new settings.

How to setup a network with a time capsule, airport extreme and an airport express?

Hello.
First I want to make it clear all my knowledge off wireless networks is going on forums on the internet, before a couple of months ago I didn't realize wireless networking was so intricate so forgive my lack of experience.
I just bought a time capsule (today, 4th generation), I have an airport extreme bought in January 2011 (they just got refreshed so mine is now one generation old) and the same with my airport express (bought in January).
I originally bought the airport extreme and setup a wireless network using the dual band setup. I have no issues with the 5ghz network and most of my devices run on wireless n so I had no issues with them. my only two wireless devices that can not use the 5ghz network is my iPhone 4's which use wireless n but it has to use the 2.4ghz signal. Problem is in my apartment I am bombarded with other peoples 2.4ghz networks so my signal is terrible 10-15 feet from the airport extreme. Near my extreme I am getting signal ranges around 15mb to 20 mb. When Im about 15 minutes away in my bedroom (so one wall in between) my signal plummets to 1-2 mb. sometimes as low as 0.17mb which is not good. I got the airport express to extend my range and placed it in my bedroom. . After setting up the airport express the signal still was terrible. I researched and realized that if the signal strength ***** then the airport express cant boost the signal as much which makes sense in hind sight. I then researched setting up a roaming network or a WDS network. Per research a WDS network was not recommended b/c I was not using a wireless g network. I attempted to create a roaming network and then realized that you can not use an airport express in a roaming network. This has led me to now buy a time capsule.
First, in my setup do I or should I have the time capsule as the primary? I believe its more powerful than the airport extreme but Im not sure if that matters in a network that is distributing wifi from ethernet (thats how I am connected the extreme and the time capsule)
so can I do
cable modem ETHERNET Airport extreme(in the living room where its always been and works great in that immediate area) (3rd generation) ETHERNET Time Capsule(in the bedroom where I usually get poor signal) (4th gen) and then an airport express connecting to the 2.4ghz signal in the bedroom where the time capsule also is EXTENDING the wireless range?
or should it be the time capsule first bc its more powerful?
I tried setting up this setup and everything is green but I don't know if what I am doing is actually working on full cylinders b/c I am confused on some aspects. mainly on the airport extreme which is the primary device I have under the wireless tab selected create a wireless network and on the time capsule it also is on create a wireless network with the network name being exactly the same. Should it be changed to extend a wireless network? and then bridge mode? Should I have different channels for the different devices that are on 2.4ghz?
I am open to hear ANY suggestions, or ideas to improve my setup. PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!, lol its been 5 long months of poor internet in my bedroom where my wife has her setup with a roku box and wifi tv (I have those hardwired for now) but mainly for her iPad and iPhone b/c its so bad sometimes she has to turn wifi off and use 3G. I have same issue in my bathroom, sometimes Im getting decent signal and sometimes its so bad I can't open the link on an RSS feed in safari which I have to assume doesn't require that much bandwith?
I have no wireless g devices. The only device I need 2.4ghz for is my iPhone 4's but they both use n also. All my other deivices connect on 5ghz and my 5ghz network is decent, a lot better than the 2.4ghz network atleast.

You wrote so much that I find it hard to address all your concerns. However, here are some thoughts:
1) I'd configure the Time Capsule as the "main" router, connected directly to your cable modem. Configure it to "create a wireless network" and to "Allow this network to be extended". Configure the other devices to "Extend a wireless network".
2) Put any device that's extending the network half way between the main router and the wireless clients. If the signal from the main router is weak at the cllient's location, then the extending device will also receive a weak signal.

Time Capsule + Airport Extreme very slow internet connection

first time post here, looking for some help.
I have a small wireless network at home which runs as follows.
Modem - time capsule (acting as wireless router to macbook pro) - ethernet connection to iMac
I would like to extend the range of the wireless network as we dont get signal upstairs. To do this I have added an airport extreme to extend the signal (as someone gave me one for christmas!).
The network works fine, signal is great all over the house however internet traffic is very very slow when devices are connected to just the extreme station (ie when out of range from the time capsule).
Does anyone have any suggestions as to why my internet connection upstairs is very very slow?

Thanks for the reply. It seems to have helped a little - should I expect slower speeds from the extended network?

Time Capsule Airport Extreme Airport Express - IP Address Issues, Internet dropping...

I have a brand new Time Capsule 3TB functioning as my main wireless router from a Motorola SB6141 Cable Internet Modem. I have a Airport Extreme and Airport Express extending the network from my Time Capsule 3TB. After the intial setup there were no connection issues for several days. However, yesterday I began to experience issues where the Time Capsule starting telling me that other devices on the network were trying to assign IP Addresses to change from DHCPand NAT to Bridge Mode. What is the best solution for this? My temporary solution is just to do a hard reset of the SB6141 which seems to alleviate the issue until the next day. Please help!

There is definitely some issues with the SB6141 modem and the new AC version Extreme and TC.
I have recommended to several people to use a crossover cable or a small 10/100 switch.
Either is a very cheap item and I cannot promise a solution but it has helped.
Net time it happens please login with airport utility and take a few screenshots of the TC summary page and internet tab and post them here.

I'm trying to decide between the time capsule & airport extreme. With either option, will i not have air play?

I'm trying to decide between the time capsule & airport extreme. With either option, will i not have air play? I have an IMAC, MACBOOK, 2 Apple TVs, 3 iPhones...

AIrplay to digital or analogue devices like speakers or hifi system is only available in Express. Or Apple TV.
The TC or Extreme will pass airplay protocol just fine to your ATV.
The Extreme and TC and now identical apart from the TC having an internal hard disk.

Best configuration for Time Capsule & Airport Extreme running one wireless network?

We just moved to a house that does not have Ethernet pre-wired so I've had to re-setup the wireless network in a different configuration and it seems we're experiencing deteriorated wireless signal for devices like laptops. It will work perfectly fine (and fast! wheee!!!) but then it will slow to a crawl and mostly timeout. before I reset everything and start from scratch, I'd like some help. As an FYI, when connected via Ethernet to either of these, Internet is blazingly fast… so my problem here is the Wireless portion.
As some background, here is how we had the network set up in the previous house which was working great (although it was wired for Ethernet which made things A LOT easier):
Airport Extreme (4th Generation)
Wireless Mode: Create a Wireless Network
Internet Facing (Connected to the Cable Modem)
Location: Upstairs Utility Closet (with Smartbox and cable modem)
Time Capsule (1st Generation)
Wireless Mode: Extend a Wireless Network
Joined to existing network above, but also connected to the Ethernet jack
Location: Upstairs Office
Here is the current set up we have running:
Time Capsule (1st Generation)
Wireless Mode: Create a Wireless Network
Internet Facing (Connected to the Cable Modem)
Radio Mode: 802.11n (b/g compatible)
Location: Upstairs Office
Airport Extreme (4th Generation)
Wireless Mode: Extend a Wireless Network
Joined to existing network above with NO incoming Ethernet connection
Location: Downstairs Family Room
My understanding is that the Airport Extreme should pick up and relay the signal downstairs, as well as provide the router for the devices downstairs that need Ethernet (TiVo, Apple TV, etc).
So, my question is (and thank you in advance for helping me sort this out!), what would be the best configuration to optimize the Wireless performance in the house?
Also, for whichever device is the one picking up the existing network and providing the router capabilities for the Tivo and such, is it possible for it to pick up but not rebroadcast the signal? I think in this new house we may have a good enough signal from the office, without the need to rebroadcast it. My theory is that in this house, they are too close together and interfere with each other and/or devices aren't sure which to choose so they bounce back and forth endlessly. Again, just a theory.
Many thanks again for your help! If I've left out any information, please ask and I can provide.

Should they be running on the same channel (as with the "Extend" option previously? Or just both on Automatic channels?
I would recommend the Automatic setting on both devices because this will allow each router to scan and choose an open channel automatically. If you want to set the channels manually, keep them separated by at least 4-5 channels. You would not want to ever use the same channel for both devices in this type of "roaming" setup.
Is there a way to limit bandwidth per device (or action) so that it doesn't monopolize the network and keep other devices from using it?
Nothing that I am aware of. It sounds like you have some young users who are likely visiting Bit Torrent sites, which will really gobble up the bandwidth with big, heavy downloads. The Time Machine has to back up the same files again when it makes the next pass, so that clogs things up again.
Backups would go 3-5 times faster, on average, if the computer(s) could connect using Ethernet, but I understand that wires are not cool with the younger crowd.
should BOTH the TC and AE be set up in Bridge mode?
The AirPort Extreme should be set up in Bridge Mode.
The Time Capsule...it depends. If the TC is connected to a simple cable modem...then the correct setting for Connection Sharing would be "Share a public IP address" on the TC. That is because a simple modem has only 1 IP address to deliver. The TC takes that address and "shares" it with other devices by setting up a local network for all your other devices.
If the TC is connected to a gateway....a combination modem/router in the same box that usually has 3-4 Ethernet ports on the device....then that device would be considered the main router on the network and the TC would be configured in Bridge Mode in that case to function correctly on the network.

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