Time Capsule high latency (ping) when using WDS

Hi!
I have this WDS configuration.
An Airport Extreme 802.11g connected to my cable modem as WDS main
A Time Capsule as WDS remote.
Both are using channel 1 with WPA/WPA2 Personal.
I can access the Internet. Printers and AirTunes work fine. But I have some high latency when pinging the ISP modem on 10.0.0.1 from any device connected through the Time Capsule.
More specifically when I am connected to Airport Extreme 802.11g the ping looks fine: within 1-10 ms. Both if I am directly connected to the Extreme with a cable or wireless.
BUT when I am on Time capsule (both wired or wireless) my latency time looks very awkward ranging from 1 to 1500 ms.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=35.074 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=291.896 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1292.345 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.495 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.435 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.461 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1.471 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=1960.883 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=960.775 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=186.944 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=1.460 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=977.690 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=1.529 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=1002.142 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=2002.976 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=1.806 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=1002.782 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=1.533 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=1.565 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=1002.137 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=1.446 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=22.602 ms
All packets get there but they are terribly delayed causing bad communication while using Skype or SIP telephone from my laptop and imac when connected through the Time Machine.
I have tried to change the multicast rate on both of them but with no success... still bad latency
Do you have any suggestion?

I have found the solution.
I post it here so it might help someone.
The issue is: even if you are in WDS don't use the WAN port in the Time Capsule.
Leave that one empty and use the other 3 LAN ports... and it will make your Time Capsule work perfectly!
The weird ping result in my previous msg were produced by a computer connected into the WAN port on my TM set into WDS. The port works and behave as a LAN port actually but it's not working properly. Avoid using it!

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: well everybody have same problems to initialize second AEBS, and set it up.
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