Time capsule with airport

I have a Mac, a Notebook, several ipads, iphones and have been using airport extreme fine. I also bought the 2.0 TB time capsule to backup everything and have had nothing but problems getting and keeping it connected. Can anyone make suggestions? My AirPort Extreme is connected to my cable modem.

The Time Capsule needs to be setup as the primary router on a network as described in article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1175

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mickair wrote:
I have been experiencing some networking problems
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
I have the latest Time Capsule ("TC"), an old Airport Extreme Base Station ("AEBS") bought in 2007 and 2 Airport Expresses, one bought in 3 months ago ("AE-Alpha") and the other bought back in 2007 ("AE-Beta"). All of them have been updated with the latest firmware.
Based on those dates, the AirPort Extreme is probably flat (as opposed to dome-shaped), making it 802.11n-capable. The Newer AirPort Express is probably an 802.11n-capable model A1264, while the older one is probably a model A1084 or A1088.
I use {the TC's} DHCP function ... to avoid unauthorized use.
This a discussion for another thread, but that's not what DHCP is for.
The wireless setting for it is to participate as WDS Main, but after reading various posts, it seems WDS is a bad idea
With that older AirPort Express you're stuck with WDS unless you decide to replace it with a newer model.
The AEBS is currently setup as being a WDS Relay at the moment
Why a relay? That's only needed if there's another base station "beyond" it that is configured to depend on it.
Since the AEBS is connected to the TC via Ethernet, you should probably configure it as a "roaming network":
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2273124
{The AE-Alpha} connects fine as WDS remote at the moment
I don't have any experience with mixed WDS and non-WDS networks, but since it's 802.11n-capable, you may be able to configure it to "extend" the network of the TC rather than as WDS. Look for a setting on the TC to "Allow this network to be extended".
Physical location:
AEBS in one end, TC and AE-Alpha in the middle while AE-Beta on the other end.
A device such as "AE-Beta" that's supposed to extend a network shouldn't be "at the end" but should be half way between the central base station and the clients that need an extended network.

Extending a time capsule with airport express twice

Hi,
I have been trying to extend my existing wireless network recently but it never ended up how I wished...
I have one 4th generation Time Capsule (A1409) and two Airport Express 802.11n (1st generation A1264).
All currently have MAC Address base authentication and no security in place for was of testing (security not relevant at this point in time).
When I extend my Time Capsule with either Airport Express this works like a charm, the LEDs are all green and connection works for client devices.
When I extend my Time Capsule with both Airport Express the same applies, everything works.
However what I have found not to works it extending my Time Capsule with one Airport Express and then extending this Airport Express with the second Airport Express. While all LEDs are green and the second Airport is seen in the Airport Utility, I find no client are ever able to connect to it and alway either connect to the first Airport Express or to the Time Capsule. This is an issue I the area I want to cover is pretty big and I need the second Airport Express for the additional reach.
I haven't found anything against this setup, it however appears you can't connect to the second Airport. The Airport Utility would even accurately depict the situation with Airport Express one dotted line to Time Capsule, and Airport Express two dotted line to Airport Express one.
However no connection seam possible to Airport Express two.
I have swapped Airport Express one and two, and in this case Airport Express gets the clients and Airport Express one now extending Airport Express two gets none.
Is this an expected behavior, i.e. should I give up or is there anything I can do about this ?

However what I have found not to works it extending my Time Capsule with one Airport Express and then extending this Airport Express with the second Airport Express.
Apple's "extend a wireless network" feature will only allow you to extend the signal one level, not two. It's possible to have more than one device extending the signal, but each extender must connect directly to the main base station.....not to another device that is already extending the signal.
The Airport Utility would even accurately depict the situation with Airport Express one dotted line to Time Capsule, and Airport Express two dotted line to Airport Express one.
This is an illusion. AirPort Express is "joining" the wireless network.....not extending it. When the Express "joins" a network, it can be used for AirPlay, or a remote printer could be connected to the USB port, but the Express will not provide any additional wireless signal coverage when it joins a network.
Is this an expected behavior
Yes. I can try to look up Apple's support document that explains this if you want more information, but you may likely already have all the information that you need. Let us know.

Time capsule with airport extreme

Good afternoon,
I'm trying to figure out how to configure my time capsule with my airport extreme and with all the rest as described below (see: "toys"). But the information I've gathered is somewhat dubious.
So I'm hoping someone can help me out.
My "toys" are: TimeCapsule, AirportExtreme, iMac, iPhone 4s, iPad, AppleTV, 2 laptops, a kidstablet and a PSVita.
And naturally this was/is all wireless and that seems to be a bit of a problem because if everyone is using the wifi-signal it says bye-bye.
The configuration I have in mind is:
modem --- wired --- timecapsule (wan???) --- wired ??? --- AirPort Extreme --- wired (???) --- iMac
and then everything else wireless
Is this a good configuration? Can I do better?
And do I have to change some of my settings in the process?
Already a big thanks in advance !!!

do I put the wire in to the WAN port of the timecapsule
Yes
and from the TC to the APExtreme LAN to LAN
Recommend LAN on the TC to WAN on the AirPort Extreme for consistency, although it does not really matter in this case.
and from APExtreme LAN to iMac?
Yes
The settings are latin for me so I haven't touched any of the settings
If you power off and disconnect the AirPort Extreme, is the TC wired to your modem now?
If yes, do things appear to be working OK with the Time Capsule and modem?

How to Set Up Time Capsule With Airport Extreme and Airport Express

Just got a new 1TB Time Capsule. I want it to be the main base station for my network. I already have a network set up with an older Airport Extreme base station and an Airport Express to extend it. I am thinking that rather than setting up the Time Capsule to "join" the old network, the best approach is to disconnect the Airport Extreme and Airport Express and reset them. Then set up the Time Capsule as a brand new network and bring the reset Aiport Extreme and Express onto the new network as if my original network never existed.
Is that the right approach or am I complicating it? Can I just join the Time Capsule to the existing network and still make it the main base station for the network?

evelK wrote:
Just got a new 1TB Time Capsule. I want it to be the main base station for my network. I already have a network set up with an older Airport Extreme base station and an Airport Express to extend it. I am thinking that rather than setting up the Time Capsule to "join" the old network, the best approach is to disconnect the Airport Extreme and Airport Express and reset them. Then set up the Time Capsule as a brand new network and bring the reset Aiport Extreme and Express onto the new network as if my original network never existed.
Is that the right approach or am I complicating it? Can I just join the Time Capsule to the existing network and still make it the main base station for the network?
I'd first use AirPort Utility to "Save a Copy As" of your AirPort Extreme settings. Then disconnect it, connect the Time Capsule in its place, and use AirPort Utility's "Import" function to read those settings. (Both of those functions are under AirPort Utility's "File" menu.) You may have to adjust a few settings. Once you have the Time Capsule working as you want, you can reconfigure your AirPort Extreme unit as you wish.

Time Capsule with Airport Express how does it know 802.11 b g or n?

Here is my setup:
Time Capsule 1 TB 802.11 b, g or n
Airport Express 802.11b or g
MacBook Pro 802.11 g
Powerbook G4 802.11 g
My question is: I have the Airport Express acting as a bridge to pass or repeat the signal to the upper floor of my home. If I use my MacBook Pro this is capable of achieving 802.11 g access will it either try and just connect directly to the TC and maintain that (N) connection or will it be forced to go where the signal is the strongest and go to the AE and automatically default to the max rate of 802.11 (g) of the airport express.
My Probook actually as no issue with full signal access to the TC which is on the first floor but for some reason the older PB G4 only can achieve at most three bars out of 4 but typically just two bars, thus the need for the bridge use of the Airport Express.
Thanks for the help.

Most of us are still trying to figure out how to add our Expresses and Airports as WDS bridges to TC, so consider yourself lucky. I think that adding a "g" device to an "n" network typically brings the whole network down to g speeds.

Using a current Time Capsule with Airport Extreme and Airport Express Older generation

I am looking to achieve a fast local network that allows streaming of music and video. I have bought a Time Capsule to replace the Telstra router (Thomson Router) by linking it using ethernet cable and then set up a network that also uses and older airport extreme and express router (g standard).
It would appear that the local network speed is slow - how can I assess the connection speed in the local network - both wireless and for ethernet? I believe that there is a speed indication on my two older macs running OSX 10.5 but not in OSX 10.6. Is there a tool to assess the local network speed?
The current set up works less well than previously only using the Thomson router, so the initial results are very disappointing. Not even streaming music seems to work and it stutters to halt.
I had expected that the dual band functionality would allow fast local connections where needed. What do I need to change?
Thanks you.
Tom

Hi Bob,
The two old airports (extreme and express) are connected wirelessly to the time capsule base station with the following use:
- round extreme base station supports a printer only - remote WDS indicated in set up
- airport express supports remote speakers - set up does not indicate WDS status
I noticed in another note to provide a second network name to 5GHz network and connect the modern computers, ipad (seems to be able to connect) and apple tv to the 5 GHz network, leaving the other on the separate network. Also the two computers, apart from the laptops are connected via ethernet to use the GB ethernet, but I am not sure whether that speed is achieved or whether a firewire connection between the two would be better. use examples are:
1. Wirelessly I am trying to use three speakers - computer, apple tv and express - to have to listen to the same music in three rooms.
2. Over ethernet, I am using the the powermac as a file server to mac mini, but would like to be bale to access photo libraries (both Iphoto and Aperture) ideally over the network. It works well with starting the powermac in target disk mode but seems slow over what should be a very fast ethernet network.
The connection with the service providers router and time capsule is bridged - seems to be the only way of providing internet access - however, it also seems to allow for shared devices to be visible across the two time capsule and the Thomson network.
Obviously, this will need some more experimentation but any input would be appreciated.
Thank you and regards,
Tom
PS> Timezone wise I am currently living in Australia - must change my profile one day.....

Time Capsule with Airport Express, AirExp won't go to solid green

My Time Capsule is working fine, solid green light. My Airport express will not sync to Time Capsule, blinking amber light. Airport Express worked fine with Linksys router; but, can't get it to work, green light, with Time Capsule. The Air Express is a couple of years old. Is that the reason? Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Then the version of your TC and your Express will show up on the Airport Utility menu....
Just click on the Express and it will show you the version of the software for the Express.
If not, I can't help you anymore than this.
Sorry...
Joseph Kriz

How to manually connect wireless clients on Time Capsule with Airport 6.1?

I'm having trouble setting up wireless access for an older Dell laptop and a wireless HP 4500 printer on a new Time Capsule wireless network. All of the workarounds that I've found (adding a client manually so no WPA password is needed; generating an equivalent network password, etc) and even the Time Capsule setup manual itself reference options in AirPort Utility that are not available up on my Mac running Mountain Lion. I've figured out that the AirPort for Mountain Lion must be the root of the problem--and I can see that there are 5.6 vs. 6.0 discussions. Clearly the 6.0 version has a whole new interface and advanced options don't appear readily available. Can AirPort 5.6 run on Mountain Lion? Or is there a another way to get to these manual settings so I can get these devices to just work?
It's a real bummer to have no information from Apple to update the Time Capsule user manual and help files for what obviously is a common problem in setting up a mixed wireless network.
Thanks for the help.

You are right of course.. it is about time Apple updated Time Capsule both hardware and instruction for usage on v6 utility. I wonder if TC is doomed in the future which apple sees is all cloud.
You can load 5.6 into mountain lion.. you cannot run it as the application installer will fail. But it is still easy to get it working.
Download the 5.6 package.
Download unpkg http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16357/unpkg
Run unpkg
Open the dmg and drag the pkg file over to unpkg.. the 5.6 utility will be loaded to a directory on the desktop. Drag the file to your utility directory.. you only need the main file.
But it could be even easier to just download and install the airport utility for windows.. which will have bonjour for windows. Plug into the TC by ethernet.
Whichever way you do it.. change the TC name and wireless names to SMB compatible.. ie short, no spaces and pure alphanumeric.. no apostrophe.. that absolutely ghastly Apple invention.
Set a workgroup name in the file sharing. WORKGROUP generally
Set guest account to read and write.. at least initially as it is easier by far to get access.
I would also lock channels and if the computer uses 5ghz then give 5ghz wireless a different name.. The band swapping is only for Macs.

I have trouble getting my new Apple TV 2 to work to the internet. I have an Imac with OsX 10.6.8 using a 3G modem to connect to the internet. I have a Time Capsule with Airport. I can't get the Apple TV to see my internet connection

I have an Imac with OSX 10.6.8 dual intel core.
Apple TV 2
Timecapsule
3G modem connected to iMac for internet access.
I have tied to get Apple TV2 to see the inernet but it does not seem to see the inernet connection either via the Airport network or even if I connect it directly with a ethernet cable to the Timecapsule or the iMac.
I have tired to set up Home Sharing but it doen't see the Itunes Store so no go.
I don't have wired internet but it is probably something to do with using a 3G modem
Any tips on how I can check if the TV coonect to internet and what to do about this problem?
I was trying to connect my HD TV earlier using a WiFi USB modem but it could not see my iMac. Apple Support told me to buy an Apple TV but that is not helping as I can't see anything there either.
Regards from Michael

Thank you so much Paul_31 for your suggestions, HUGELY appreciate the effort
I have reset the printing system, a few times for good measure but nadda.
I have also looked at getting the software from the Apple site after seeing that with Snow Leopard you should let the operating system lead the install not the manufacteurers software as it is most likely out of date. I too found it wasn't there so I uninstalled the software got up the CLX_3300 series stuff then went from there with the USB cable. It apparently hasn't worked either
Unfortunately now after using the print utility to scan for a while that has now gone again on the last restart of the Mac. I am so completely clueless
The box says the printer is compatible, the place of purchase said it was compatible, the Samsung site says it is compatible.
I think it's the set up of my Mac? Our maybe a glitch in the network settings?
Thanks again

Can't find Time Capsule with Airport Utility on ethernet but can on configure other.

OS X 10.8.4, 24" iMac,TC 1st generation, Airport Utility 6.3 or 5.6, TC Firmware was 7.6.3 downgraded to 7.6.1(no effect), reinstalled OS X 10.8.4, have done a factory reset of TC, TC is visible to finder and Time Machine, both work fine. Internet works fine. Wireless works fine.
Airport Utility on Macbook Pro with the same software sees it fine, no problems.
Please! Any suggestions?

Follow this link if you are having similar problems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqkNooG1KQ
I will update this if it also solves another problem with Time Machine backups.

I have used Airport Time Capsule with my iMac for several years. I recently purchased a MacBook Air and when it tried to backup to Time Capsule it couldn't because Time Capsule is full. How can I now use the 3TB Airport Time Capsule to back up both?

I have used Airport Time Capsule with my iMac for a couple years. I recently purchased a MacBook Air and when it tried to backup to Time Capsule it couldn't because Time Capsule is full. How can I now use the 3TB Airport Time Capsule to back up both the iMac and MacBook Air? I don't mind losing earlier backups. I have excluded some items from backing up, but since the Airport Time Capsule is full, I can't even begin to back up the MacBook Air.

On your Mac.......
Open Finder > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the Time Capsule icon, then click Edit in the smaller window that appears
Click on the Disks tab at the top of the window
Click Erase Disk
On the next window that appears, select the Quick Erase option, then click Erase
The operation will only take a few minutes.
Now you are ready to start new backups of both Macs. Back up one Mac first, then back up the other. Do not try to back up both Macs as the same time.

Apple TV Inference with Time Capsule and Airport express?

I have recently bought an Apple TV 2, which seem to be working fine, however since installing it on my wireless network both my Time Capsule and Airport Express can't be found. Following some fault finding it seems that when I unplug the Apple TV I can reconfingure the TC and AE.
The TC and AE are configured to join my existing network....and have happy sat there for a few years.
I would really welcome any ideas.
Thanks
R

Welcome to the discussions!
It sounds like you have the basic configuration covered correctly.
You might want to check some settings on the TC:
Wireless Mode would be create a wireless network
"Allow this network to be extended" should be checked
The AX should be set to "extend a wireless network"
The "allow wireless clients" box should be checked
In this configuration, the ethernet port on the AX is active so things should work.
A minor point...Although the TC is a dual band device, the AirPort Express is not. Can you make sure that that the Express is connecting to the "main" network on your TC? The "guest" network cannot be "extended".
If you place your laptop close to the Express and hold down the option key while you click on the AirPort icon, some connection information will be displayed. The MAC address of the device that the laptop is connecting to will be indicated. Make sure that that this is the MAC address of the AX, and not the TC.
Another note...If you have not changed the default "main" network, the radio mode is broadcasting 802.11n only at 5 GHz. These higher frequencies are absorbed by walls, ceilings and any obstructions much more quickly than 2.4 GHz signals. So, if you AX is some distance away, you may not be receiving a strong signal for the device at that location.
If you have a signal strength utility on your laptop (the "bars" at the top of the screen are not a very good indicator of actual signal strength), turn off the AX and take a reading to see what kind of signal the Express is receiving where it is located.
Please post back with your results.

Extending a network with Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme (via Belkin powerline)

Hello -
I've seen many topics about extending wireless networks here, but none seems to resolve the issue I'm having. I currently have a setup where a DSL cable modem is connected to a Time Capsule and I need to extend this network to another room using an AirPort Extreme.
I live in a very old apartment in Brazil and the walls seem to block the signal from one room to another, hence the need to extend it. Since wireless signal is very weak between rooms, I bought a Belkin powerline AV500 so I could connect both Time Capsule and AirPort using the electrical power at home (just installing a regular Ethernet cable between rooms is not an option).
I started with the basics: configure the Time Capsule + DSL as a standalone network, and it works perfectly within it's range. Then I connected the Belking powerline, plugged a MacBook via Ethernet on the other end and still got very good results (actually better speed than expected). Used it for a while with streaming and other network intensive tasks to make sure it could sustain the connection.
Finally, pluggned the AirPort Extreme on the Belking powerline and this is where the problems started. AirPort Utility 6.3.1 only gives me the option of extending a network wirelessly - it doesn't seem to give me the option of extending it via Etherenet (roaming), which is not good in my case. Luckly I had a copy of AirPort Utility 5.6 which seems to do the job (or I thought so), but it's still not working well.
Although I managed to configure both with the same name, it doesn't seem reliable and some devices (the iPhone 5, for example) are unable to connect and end up with a self-asigned IP address. I'm almost sure I'm doing something wrong on the setup, as I've seen a similar setup working before, so if anyone out there has any clue of what can be done, it will be much appreciated.
Attached the screenshots of both Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme configurations.
Thanks a lot,
-TM
AirPort Exteme:
Time Capsule:

Hello JuliaApple. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
You have several ways to configure both base stations for what you are trying to do.
The simplest would be to configure the Time Capsule (TC) to "join" (AirPort Utility > Manual Setup > Wireless tab > Wireless Mode = Join a wireless network) your existing 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). In this type of configuration the TC would perform as any other wireless client and not perform as a router. It will; however, still allow for both backups and sharing USB devices attached to it.

Airtune Over Ethernet with Time Capsule or Airport Extreme

Can the previous generation Time Capsule or Airport Extreme bridge an ethernet client to an Airtunes network?
Current Setup: I have an aluminum iMac wired to my Time Capsule; currently, I use the aluminum as a music server by connecting to several Airport Express clients over the the iMac's built-in Airport for Airtunes support.
Problem: I have 3-802.11g clients dragging my wifi network. I would like to dedicate the iMac's internal network to the g-clients so I don't have to use compatibility mode for my n-network. However, I will lose Airtunes speaker support when I use internet sharing over the built-in Airport. Airtunes does not appear to support the Time Capsule ethernet client.
Nodes:
-AE 802.11g (Airtunes only)
-AE 802.11n (Airtunes and USB printer)
-1st gen Time Capsule (Internet gateway, "creating network" 802.11 g/n,
-iMac 8,1 (Music server via internal wifi, wired TC client)
-Macbook 4,1 (wifi client)
-iPhone
-Canon MP620 (USB to iMac, wifi to Macbook)

Further to Bob's comments..
A Gen1 TC will be using marvel wireless chip and your 2008 and 2010 Macbook will use atheros and/or broadcom cards.. Just open your system profiler and look for info on the airport. We find the mixture of wireless chipsets especially older draft N and later N products can give very varied results.
The very fact you are linking at 270 and not 300mbps shows some reduction from theoretical max speed.. and really to get over 100mbps with any wireless you need perfect setup.. matched wireless chips etc.
Do a test uploading and downloading a file to the TC to see if the LAN speed is better than internet speed.
In reality I think you are doing especially well.. we see loads of people complaining about slow internet here who are getting less than 10% of the speed they get direct when routed through the TC. And on most occasions the limit in speed is not really going to affect what you do, as the real links to the internet are not that fast.

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