Time code break

I'm doing a short video piece, got a time code break warning after 10 minute capture. What's the consequence of this, it's just a 5 minute piece that will be easy to edit, do I have to be concerned about this?
thanks
Jim

What codec are you using and are you connecting via firewire? we recently upgraded our edit bays to 6.0.5 and a new issue that has come is very similar to what you describe.
we shoot reality tv and so the timecode breaks on our tapes create perfect clips for us using the "Create New Clip on timecode break" option. We shoot on Z1Us in the HDV format. Since the upgrade, we randomly get a notification saying capture aborted due to timecode break. we can roll back the tape and the next pass will work.
I know HDV timecode is fickle but its weird that it start in a later version of FCP 6 and not 6.0.1

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