Time comparision of ASCII conversion VS Unicode conversion

In general how does the runtime of a Unicode conversion compare to that of the ASCII conversion?  For example, you perform the Unicode conversion on the same hardware on which you completed the ASCII conversion.  The ASCII conversion takes 20 hours.  Does the Unicode conversion take a similiar time?
thanx
Mark

Hi Mark,
first an answer, that comes only now, because my user was somehow locked or whatever ...
How long does it take compared to the ASCII CPC ?
As you are a latin-1 customer I guess, you could make use of the InPlace version in both attempts.
The InPlace Unicode CPC Export will take 6-7h or the time of the Ascii Export if this was longer. The reload will take about 3h only.
The major problem is on some other edge:
The combined upgrade only works fine if you run all the scans and this will take several days ... even when they are "pretty useless" in your case. Therefore, I would recommend an ECC6 upgrade without unicode and then the unicode conversion directly afterwards - in a short special technique, that I used several times already.
If it is "just" from 4.6C ASCII to ECC 6.0 Unicode, the week will be fully sufficient including all backups - which can sometimes run in parallel. (at least with my ideas)
I did something like that from 4.6B ASCII to ecc5 Unicode on one weekend from friday evening until sunday afternoon. (for sure, depending on the systemsize)
Regards
Volker Gueldenpfennig, consolut.gmbh
http://www.consolut.de - http://www.4soi.de - http://www.easymarketplace.de

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    The FM GUI_DOWNLOAD/UPLOAD is used.
    The variations to be made in the parameters of the FM:
    1. Filename – It must be of STRING type.
    2. Filetype – “DAT” is not used any longer, instead “ASC” is used.
    3. Field Separator – The default value “SPACE” is used, incase for a TAB separated file “X” can be used.
    4. Error:
    In case of CURRENCY/UNIT Addition Error; ‘Use addition CURRENCY/UNIT when outputting.’
    Correction:
    The CURRENCY addition specifies the currency-dependant decimal places for the output of the data objects of type i or p. To obtain the currency-key, the field CURRKEY of the table TCURX is used. The system determines the number of the decimal places from the field CURRDEC of the selected CURRKEY.
    To correct this error follow the following method:
    WRITE: /3 'TOTAL',' ', TOTAL.
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    5. Error:
    In case of TYPE X Error; ‘Variable must be of C, N, D, T or STRING type.’
    Correction:
    We need to change all the Type X (Hexadecimal) variables to Type C with their values unchanged.
    So the method to be followed is:-
    1. Load the definition of the class CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE or CL_ABAP_CHAR_UTILITIES.
    2. Declare the variable as Type C, and use the method UCCP(‘XXXX’) of the class CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE where XXXX represents the 8-bit Hexadecimal value and incase the variable holds a Hex value for a Horizontal Tab , then the Attribute “HORIZONTAL_TAB” of the class CL_ABAP_CHAR_UTILITIES can be used directly instead of using the method UCCP.
    E.g.:
    i) *DATA: TAB TYPE X VALUE 09, “Tab character
    CLASS: CL_ABAP_CHAR_UTILITIES DEFINITION LOAD.
    DATA TAB TYPE C VALUE CL_ABAP_CHAR_UTILITIES=>HORIZONTAL_TAB.
    ii) * DATA: CHAR TYPE X VALUE 160.
    CLASS: CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE DEFINITION LOAD.
    DATA CHAR TYPE C.
    CHAR = CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE=>UCCP(‘00AO’).
    (Here ‘00A0’ is the Hexadecimal equivalent of the decimal 160).
    3. Incase the TYPE X Variable has a length more than 1, then an internal table must be created for the variable.
    E.g.:
    CLASS: CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE DEFINITION LOAD.
    DATA : LF(2) TYPE X VALUE 'F5CD'.
    DATA : BEGIN OF LF,
    A1 TYPE C,
    A2 TYPE C,
    END OF LF.
    LF-A1 = CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE=>UCCP('00F5').
    LF-A2 = CL_ABAP_CONV_IN_CE=>UCCP('00CD').
    6. Error:
    In case of the Character “-“Error; ‘The Character “-“can’t appear in names in Unicode Programs.’
    Correction:
    The Character “-“(Hyphen) appearing in Variable names is replaced by the character “_” (Under Score) for Unicode/Upgrade Compliance.
    E.g.:
    *wk-belnr LIKE bkpf-belnr,
    *wk-xblnr LIKE bkpf-xblnr,
    *wk-date LIKE sy-datum,
    *wk-wrbtr LIKE bseg-wrbtr,
    *wk-name1 LIKE lfa1-name1,
    *wk-voucher(8) TYPE c.
    wk_belnr LIKE bkpf-belnr,
    wk_xblnr LIKE bkpf-xblnr,
    wk_date LIKE sy-datum,
    wk_wrbtr LIKE bseg-wrbtr,
    wk_name1 LIKE lfa1-name1,
    wk_voucher(8) TYPE c.
    7. Error:
    In case of The SUBMIT-TO-SAP-SPOOL Error; ‘you should not use the statement SUBMIT-TO-SAP-SPOOL without the WITHOUT SPOOL DYNPRO addition. ‘
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    EXPORTING
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    DESTINATION = P_DEST
    IMMEDIATELY = 'X'
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    OUT_PARAMETERS = print_parameters
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    DESTINATION = P_DEST
    IMMEDIATELY = 'X'
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    OUT_PARAMETERS = print_parameters
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    OTHERS = 4
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    with sreserv in preserv
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    WITHOUT SPOOL DYNPRO.
    8. Error:
    In case of Message Error; ‘Number of WITH fields and number of Place Holders are not same ‘.
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    E.g.:
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    'access sequence'
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    In case of Move between 2 different Structures; ‘The structures are not mutually convertible in a Unicode program.’
    Correction:
    Make both the Data Types compatible and then assign the contents.
    E.g.:
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    TEMP_TEXT+2(20) = RETAINAGE_TEXT-FILLER1.
    TEMP_TEXT+22(15) = RETAINAGE_TEXT-AMT_DUE.
    TEMP_TEXT+37(8) = RETAINAGE_TEXT-TEXT.
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    In case of ‘writing internal or transparent table’
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    Write individual fields.
    E.g.:
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    12. Error:
    In case of ‘combination reference table/field S541-UMMENGE does not exist’
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    Was due to error in reference table S541. TABLE S541 has errors
    1)”Foreign key S541- ZZMARKET (ZZMARKET AND KATR2 point to different domains)”
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    Changed the domain of ZZMARKET (from ZMKCODE to ATTR2)
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    13. Error:
    In case of ‘KEY does not exist’
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    14. Error:
    Incase of ‘WRITE’ statement, ‘Literals that take more than one line is not permitted in Unicode systems.’
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    15. Error:
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    WHEN ‘7’
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    Reward points if helpful.
    Regards,
    Ramya

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