Time Dependent InfoObject and InfoPackages

Hi There,
I did create a time-dependent infoobject ( bI7 object) however the timeframe in the infopackage does not show-up meaning I can not restrict the load _ unless I define the dateto and datefrom as selection when I create the datasource in R/3 ... Any explanation ? is it a BI7 feature ?
Cheers,
Erik.

With Time-dependent InfoOject, it is usually possible to restrict in the tab "Upadate" the FROM and TO date from the extraction. Usually the default value when you create the infopackage is TODAY for FROM and 31.12.9999 for TO.
In my case, when I create the infopackage these options do NOT appear in the screen. ....
What is the reason for that ? Is there a reason for that ?
Cheers,
Erik
Edited by: Erik MITON on Jul 25, 2008 8:38 AM

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