Time dimension hierarchy

Hi,
Im creating time dimensional hirearchy in BMM Layer in 10g and getting the below error
[nQSError:15001]Could not load navigation space for subject area Test.
[nQSError:15019]Table period is functionally dependent upon level Month,but a more detailes child level has associated columns from that same table or a more detailed table.
plz anyone help me
Thanks
Edited by: Business Intelligence Foundation on May 24, 2012 2:16 AM

Hi,
This message occurs when either a key is defined under the Total level or when the first child level below the Total level contains two keys.
Right-click on the Total level and select Properties.
The Keys tab should be grayed out.
If it is selectable, check to see what is there and delete it.
Go to the next level down, right-click, select the Keys tab.
Only one Key should appear.
Delete the key that does not belong.
Thanks,
Balaa...

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I believe the limit for Planning's Period dimension is 400 members.
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While going through some hierarchies, i found that some columns were associated with the levels in hierarchy but these columns were not part of level keys.
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Start time --->7:29:17 PM - Date:9/28/2011 (build code:7.5.107)
User:T2RU\bpc.sysadmin
Appset:DEVTELE2
App:BUDGETS
Logic mode:0
Logic by:
Scope by:CATEGORY,INPUTCURRENCY,P_BF,P_BUDDIM,P_BUDDIM2,P_BUSTYPE,P_CC,P_CITY,P_DATASRC,P_PROJECT,TIME
Data File:
Debug File:D:\PC_MS\DATA\WebFolders\DEVTELE2\BUDGETS\PrivatePublications\bpc.sysadmin\TempFiles\DebugLogic.log
Logic File:
Selection:DIMENSION:CATEGORY|BU|DIMENSION:INPUTCURRENCY|RUR|DIMENSION:P_BF|IBF19|DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM|NO_BUDDIM|DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM2|NO_BUDDIM2|DIMENSION:P_BUSTYPE|NO_PRODUCT|DIMENSION:P_CC|3_KEM_FF_FA|DIMENSION:P_CITY|KEM|DIMENSION:P_DATASRC|CCDATA|DIMENSION:P_PROJECT|PR_PL|DIMENSION:TIME|2012.JAN|
Run mode:1
Query size:0
Delim:,
Query type:0
Simulation:0
Calc diff.:1
Formula script:
Max Members:
Test mode:0
Is Modelling:1
Query Type:0
Max members:
Region:
DIMENSION:CATEGORY
BU
DIMENSION:INPUTCURRENCY
RUR
DIMENSION:P_ACCT
----- There a lot of accounts <All> accounts and I dont show it all
DIMENSION:P_BF
IBF19
DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM
NO_BUDDIM
DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM2
NO_BUDDIM2
DIMENSION:P_BUSTYPE
NO_PRODUCT
DIMENSION:P_CC
3_KEM_FF_FA
DIMENSION:P_CITY
KEM
DIMENSION:P_DATASRC
CCDATA
DIMENSION:P_PROJECT
PR_PL
DIMENSION:TIME
2012.JAN
DIMENSION:P_CC
3_KIR_FF_FA
DIMENSION:CATEGORY
BU
DIMENSION:P_DATASRC
CCDATA
DIMENSION:INPUTCURRENCY
RUR
DIMENSION:P_BF
IBF19, IBF15
DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM
NO_BUDDIM
DIMENSION:P_BUSTYPE
NO_PRODUCT
DIMENSION:P_BUDDIM2
NO_BUDDIM2
DIMENSION:TIME
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<ALL>
Loading TIME.TIMEID
Time to load properties:0.0 sec.
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select P_ACCT,P_BF,TIMEID,SIGNEDDATA
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select P_ACCT,P_BF,TIMEID,SIGNEDDATA
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select tmpTable.P_ACCT,tmpTable.P_BF,tmpTable.TIMEID,sum(SIGNEDDATA) as SIGNEDDATA
from #tblTempLogic_266166 as tmpTable
group by tmpTable.P_ACCT,tmpTable.P_BF,tmpTable.TIMEID
drop table #tblTempLogic_266166
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Bets regards
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Calendar A : fiscal month start April
Calendar B : fiscal month start January
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May-08 2
Jun-08 3
Jul-08 4
Aug-08 5
Sep-08 6
Oct-08 7
Nor-08 8
Dec-08 9
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Feb-09 11
Mar-09 12
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Jan-09 13
Feb-09 14
Mar-09 15
Apr-08 16
May-08 17
Jun-08 18
Jul-08 19
Aug-08 20
Sep-08 21
Oct-08 22
Nor-08 23
Dec-08 24
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2007.Q2             2007 Q2                   2007.TOTAL   QUARTER     2007     Q2        T1                  6                       ACT   20070002        2
2007.Q3             2007 Q3                   2007.TOTAL   QUARTER     2007     Q3        T1                  9                       ACT   20070003        2
2007.Q4             2007 Q4                   2007.TOTAL   QUARTER     2007     Q4        T1                12                       ACT   20070004        2
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Amitabha,
It's just a problem that a lot of people run into when they are getting used to BPC. Once you see it happen to 10 or 15 people, you can start to recognize it pretty quickly
There are not a lot of examples of this in the Netweaver documentation. I think there are more in the Microsoft docs. However, there is mention of it on this page in the Netweaver documentation: [http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bpc75_nw/helpdata/en/65/84d6596224477d80cc8a4392e4c114/frameset.htm]
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