Time Evaluation (Time management)

hi everyone......
i just want someone to explain me with some little examples the difference between time recording with clock time & without clock time, i really have some confusion in it, also if there is any useful document or link that can help i'll be glad.
Regards;
Mickey

Hi,
Your Question # 1 - so if i want to just record the absences i shouldn't use time evaluation.
Yes, If you are recording only absences and not recording any attendances, its not required to go for Time Evaluation. You need to maintain the Time Management Status as '0' in IT0007
Question # 2 - if i want to record absences and the actual times of employee attendance just for reporting, without any payroll effect then i should use +ve (Time evaluation without payroll integration)
Answer for this question is YES. But, there is a possibility of using -ve Time Evaluation also for this scenario (this can be achieved by making few modifications to schema -ve time schema)
Question # 3 - if i want to do the same but with payroll effect, then i should use +ve (Time evaluation with actual times)
YES. (But as is said for the above point, there is a possibility of using -ve time evaluation as well, this depends on client requirement)
Good Luck...!
KK

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please advice
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Hi Charlene,
Time management can be divided into 3 steps
1.Time Recording
2.Time Evaluation
3. Planning
Time Evaluation :
The recorded time data is grouped and converted to wage types which can be used by payroll for compensation.SAP provides a time evaluation program RPTIME00 for this purpose.
Standard schemas TM00 and TM04 are used for evaluation of time data got from positive and negative time recording approaches.
time evaluation program RPTIME00 also calculates accrual and entitlement for employees.
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Swapnil

What are the major challenges for the end-user in using Positive Time Management

Hi Seniors,
Can anybody please provide me some data on the same.
Thanks.

Hi,
Positive time management is slightly difficult to implement compared to negative time management.
In negative time management, you use planned working times + deviations in time evaluation.
In positive time management, you record actual times through time recording system. You have to bring these times to SAP through an interface and then evaluate the actual times against the planned times and accordingly pay them out. You would need to pay attention regarding the integration between SAP R/3 and time recording system.
Building rules for positive time management is slightly more challenging compared to negative time management.
Kindly go through the below documents on positive time management which will give you more idea about the same.
Integration of Time Recording Terminals with SAP R/3
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Late Coming, Early Going and Unauthorized absence
Prorated Grant of Absence Quota for Contract Period in Time Evaluation
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Rounding off Overtime Hours Generated via T510S table in Time Evaluation
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Query on Time Management Status

Dear Team,
Scenario:
We have some employees wherein the time evaluation will be evaluated for the status of 9 in Planned Working Time Infotype. After a period of time, these employees will be sent for education and no leaves are entitled. In this case, the time management status will be changed to 0. No time evaluation.
The accrued leaves will still be available for the employee while going to this education for example 20 days.
We have customized a rule, which will carry forward the last year balance to the current year balance on every 1st of the year.
In the above case, if an employee completes his education and returns back in the middle of the year other than the 1st day of the year, in this case, the carry forward of leave is not taking place.
My assumptions:
I would like to know an operation which would query the Previous Day Time Management Status and Current Day Time Management Status. If I can able to do this, if it is YES, the last old previous balance to be carried forward....
Please let me know if any other alternative method.
Thanks and Regards
Team Member.
Edited by: Patlolla Mallikarjun on Apr 26, 2010 8:35 PM

Hello Mallikarjun,
If you are planning on controlling thru a rule in schema, you can approach this way. Whenever an EE returns from education, change IT0007 time mgmt status to 9 along with additional time indicator say 'ED'. You can query the additional time indicator status in a rule thru the operation 'OUTWPATIND'. Hope this helps your requirement.
Best Regards,
Sunny

Flow of Time Management Configuration.

Hello Guys,
Please explain me the flow of SAP Time Management during the configuration. It will help everyone to understand the process step by step
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Steps for IT0007
Define Public Holiday Classes
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Daily Work Schedules
Period Work Schedules
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Steps for IT2001 and 2006
Group Personnel Subareas for Attendances and Absences
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Group Personnel Subareas for Time Quotas
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Set Base Entitlements
Determine Validity and Deduction Periods
Define Rules for Rounding Quota Entitlements
Define Generation Rules for Quota Type Selection
Define Deduction Rules for Absence and Attendance Quotas
Assign Deduction Rules to Counting Rules
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USE OF CATS IN Negative time management scinario

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                I need your guidance on following points
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    2) If we have to use CATS in negative time management what should be the time management status o or 7
    3) If we transfer the data to HR management does it updates 2002 IT
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Rajesh,
1. CATS is very much relevant in negative time management for payment of overtime, recording absences and attendances. In CATS, the employee would enter time using activity types which needs to be mapped to the relevant attendance / absence types. After approval, the times charged in the time sheets would be transferred to infotypes 2001 / 2002 / 2010 (can be used for overtime)
You can use the data transfer reports "RPTEXTPT" for Human Resources components
Pls. refer to the below link for information
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
2. You can use TMSTA "9" - Time evaluation - planned times while using CATS
3. CATS data can be very much transferred to infotype 2002
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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Some Questions on Time Management PCR's and Functions

Hi Experts,
I have Confusion while i am reading some PCR's related to Time Management. Please clarify..
1. "FILLPV T " why we are using this operation and what is the need?
2. "OUTTPORIGS" what is the origin statuses and how many origin statuses are there in SAP and is there any table related to this please tell me.
3. What is the difference between RPTQTA00 and RPTIME00?
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Please give me some examples to explain FILLPV. so that it can help me to understand easily.
and how many ore there origin statuses are there in SAP.
What is the INTKY operation why we are using that?
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Waht does time management status 0 without payroll integration mean

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My query is how will the system behave now with time management status value as 0? Can we process absence quotas? What is the use of work schedules, in this context, as any way the system does not evaluate employee time in Time Management. Neither the time wage types are evaluted in Payroll, as SAP Payroll is not implemented.
-Shambhvi

My thanks to all of you. I would like to summarize the answer for my query:
Since time management status = 0, there won't be any time evaluation, which means attendance and absence data, even if entered won't be evaluated in Time Management. Since Payroll is not implemented, the question of time data getting evaluated in Payroll does not exist. However, absence quotas can be maintained, irrespective of the value of time managment status.
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Infotype 0007:Time management status

Hi Experts,
In Infotype 0007 , in the time management status field i have maintained the value as " Time Evaluation of planned times".
What does this mean ? ....
Does it mean that absences and attendences are not necessary to create. Kindly help me how the evaluation takes places
in this scenario.
Thanks in Advance,
Balaji

Hi,
This is SAP explanation:
Indicator 0 or BLANK:
The employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program.
Indicator 1:
The employee's actual times are recorded and he/she participates in time evaluation.
Example:
The employee's actual times are recorded at a time recording terminal.
The employee's actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 2:
Employees' actual times are recorded and they take part in plant data collection. Their time data is accounted using the time evaluation program.
Example:
Employees' actual times are recorded using PDC systems.
Employees' actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 8:
This indicator is intended for external employees. The employee's actual times are not recorded, attendances are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002), and time data is accounted in time evaluation.
Indicator 9:
You can use indicator 9 for employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.
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Time management status and Payroll

Experts,
We are using TMS as 9 (Time evaluation of planned time) in IT0007. What does it mean in TM?
What is it's impact in Payroll.
Regards
Sk
Edited by: s k on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 AM

You can assign the following Time Management statuses in the Planned Working Time infotype (0007):
Time evaluation with planned times (0): Employees with this status are not selected for time evaluation. They cannot therefore be processed in time evaluation. The employeeu2019s time wage types are determined in Payroll time data processing.
Time Management Status for processing time data in Time Evaluation and passing on time wage types formed there to Payroll
Time evaluation of actual times (1) and Time Evaluation PDC (2): Employees with these statuses have all their actual times, that is, all attendance and absence data, recorded*. It makes no difference whether attendance times are recorded at time recording terminals or in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Time evaluation with planned times (9): These employees have only the deviations from their work schedule recorded for them. The employeesu2019 planned working times from their personal work schedule are used as the basis for time evaluation.
Time Management Status for processing time data in Time Evaluation without passing on time wage types formed there to Payroll
Time evaluation without integration with Payroll (7): You use this status to run time evaluation to handle special time accounts u2013 to accrue absence quotas, for example. It makes no difference whether all of the employeesu2019 actual times are recorded or only the deviations from the work schedule.
The system stores the results of this time evaluation run in cluster B2, which enables you to run reports on the data, for example. The results are not passed on to Payroll. The time data processing part of Payroll treats the employees as if they had the time management status No time evaluation (0).
External services (8): Status for external employees. It makes no difference whether all of the employeesu2019 actual times are recorded or only the deviations from the work schedule. The results of time evaluation are transferred to Materials Management (MM-SRV), and are not passed on to
and also check the feature TMSTA once in peo3
Edited by: Sikindar on Nov 17, 2008 3:01 PM

Time Management Status

Hi Experts,
Im relatively new to this fourm, and also to Time Management Module.
We are implementing Negative Time Management for our client.
Have a clarification with Time Management Status.
I have suggested '0' to be defaulted as it is going to be Negative time management.
Just for my understanding would like to know the difference between the time management status 0, 7 & 9.
Also we have LWOP and Holiday Wages in place.
your expert answers awaited...
Cheers,
Sri...

Indicator 0 or BLANK:
The employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program.
Indicator 1:
The employee's actual times are recorded and he/she participates in time evaluation.
Example:
The employee's actual times are recorded at a time recording terminal.
The employee's actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 2:
Employees' actual times are recorded and they take part in plant data collection. Their time data is accounted using the time evaluation program.
Example:
Employees' actual times are recorded using PDC systems.
Employees' actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 8:
This indicator is intended for external employees. The employee's actual times are not recorded, attendances are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002), and time data is accounted in time evaluation.
Indicator 9:
You can use indicator 9 for employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.
I hope it helps you!!!
CheerS!!

Time management status "0"and "7"

Hi Team,
Kindly can you let me if we can use Time management status "7" when there is no TE instead of "0"?
My client is using "7" as Time management status and they don't have TE.
Regards,
Vimal

Hi Vimal,
The Time Management Status plays an importnat and effets as to how u want the time Process in ur company.
Time Management Staus 0 : No time Evaluation which means no PT60 or RPTIME00 all u have to do is run The Quotas with the report RPTQTA00 if any.
And Time Management 7 is Time Evaluation without Payroll integration.But u said that u dont have Time Evaluation then why 7? It should be 0 but the other possibilty to have Time Management Status 7 is you can use RPTIME00 with schema TQTA for generation of time quota and that is without time evaluation.
So its better to have TMSTA 7 as u can use RPTQTA00 and RPTIME00 with TQTA both for generation of time quota.
Regards
Swati

Time management status doubt

Hi Friends,
what is the difference between time management status 0 and 9. when we can use 0 and 9.
Thanks in advance
Venkat

Hi,
Time management status 0 means - Employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program. here the time wgetypes are formed by payroll.
Time management status 9 means - Employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.ie (.Evaluation of planned times.)
Hope this will help
Manoj.

Time Management Status 7 without Payroll Integration.

Dear All,
when do we go about Time Management Status - 7 - without Payroll Integration.
In this case how the process goes on SAP. what do we do in this status. do we record employees attendances in 2002 IT
actually what happens.
Regards
kvn

Hi KVN,
You are using time management status 7 which means that no integration to payroll.Now as far as ur Quotas are considered then please use RPTQTA00 which is just a program and RPTIME00 or PT60 which will run time evaluation and if u want your Quotas to generate in time evaluation then just change V_556A_B in this table to increase so with time evaluation and no generation for Quotas to be with time evaluation.
The client may ask sometimes for few Quotas to be prorated on a daily basis and so on in that case go with TE Quota generation
else RPTQTA00 is ok.So see ur business and use either of it
Let me know if u have any further Questions.
Thanks
Swati

Time management status for Negative time management

Hi,
what time management status has to be maintained in 0007 for negative time management
regards
bala

Its
9 - Time Evaluation of Planned times
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