Time Machine and Airport Extreme Base Station

Is using TM with an AEBS disk supported by Apple? I know a lot of people got it to work (and a lot of people aren't able to yet) but I've heard no word from Apple on this subject. There's absolutely no mention of it on their website and one page still says that TM backups with AEBS are not supported.
If the recent updates were meant to provide this functionality why is Apple so quiet on this topic? I looked on the Apple news page and they managed to have info on camera raw updates there but about TM/AEBS, nothing but crickets...
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I fail to see your concern...
Take a look at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306681 and the verbage
Changing your backup location
Click Choose Backup Disk, then select the disk to save backups to.
Click Change Disk, and from the listing in the resulting dialog select a new disk to use for backups, > and click Use for Backup to save the new location."
Does this not tell you that the AirDisk is supported as it will show up as a selectable TM backup disk.
Prior to the update AirDisks did not show up in the listing.
I do agree that AirDisks are not mentioned anywhere in this document. However, it does not exclude them either.
I've successfully used TM to backup to my TC's AirDisk + multiple hourly snapshots without issues and I've successfully restored from it using my DVD Installer disc. As far as I can see the AirDisk is supported and it's working flawlessly.

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Time Capsule and Airport extreme base station

Hi everyone,
I just have a dumb question. If i am using the AEBS for my internet (not wireless) can i plug in a network cable into the TC from the AEBS and extend the port availability?

or maybe from an ethernet port on the AEBS to the wan port on the TC??
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Configure TC and Airport Extreme Base Stations with different channels

I had to do some serious workarounds to use the Airport Extreme Base Stations as an access point with the same wireless network name primarily due to channel overlap. I thought I would post my results here since I didnt' find a good article online.
Also, I found the Snow Leopard verison (5.4.2) of the Airport Setup Utility far superior to Lion's Airport Utility (6.x) in terms of advanced setup.
Setup is a 3 flloor house where the 3 wired network locations have wireless overlap. The problem was that the access points would not hand off the wireless signal because the channels for each airport/TC were automatically set to the same channel. In non-apple setups, this is how you force a wireless client to switch access points (since the wireless software on your client/mac/windows can detect which access point is stronger and moves to the alternate channel.
Using apple's "Extend this wireless network" option removes any ability to manually configure wireless channels. I am writing this from memory, so feel free to ask questions and I will track this topic:
Procedure
Setup time capsule as your base station. Do all the setup for your wireless and guest networks. Manually configure the network and change the wireless channel to a specific channel for a/b/g networks (e.g., 3) and n networks (e.g, 167).
Plug your first airport extreme/access point into your wired network. Do not plug it into the "internet" ethernet plug, use one of the 3 ethernet switch locations
Use the airport utility to first configure it to "extend" your wired network.
Then, go in and reconfigure it manually in the airport utility. Choose the option to setup a "new network" and name the network the same as the TC wireless network name, security, etc.
Change the channel from "auto" to a different channel than the TC (e.g., 6 and 137).
Now go to the top tab and click on the "internet" icon
Go to the DHCP tab and change it to "bridge mode." This will tell the AE to not give out IP addresses (the TC will do this for you). If you get an error that the IP ranges conflict, you have not done this
Note that if you have a guest network setup, you will need to set this up on the AE as well.
Now test your airport setup. Take your client (macbook, iOS device) and connect to your network. Move to a spot near the TC and pull up a web page. Keep an eye on the signal strength and beginv moving toward the AE. Refresh the page as you move around. You should at some point see the signal strength increase. Refresh your page again. You should be now connected to to the AE. I have found that Macbooks do a better job than iOS devices because you get an extra signal bar to measure strength, and they have larger antennas which allows you to better measure problems with handoff
Another test you can do is to start backing up on your TC and then test the move. The handoff will truly show you that the TC is handling the process but the AE is relaying to the TC for backup.
If you need to setup another AE, simply follow setups 3-10.
I hope this helps others. I've done this setup 100 times on Linksys devices and although they are cumbersome, they at least allow me to do this setup much more quickly and easily than the apple products.

I had to do some serious workarounds to use the Airport Extreme Base Stations as an access point with the same wireless network name primarily due to channel overlap. I thought I would post my results here since I didnt' find a good article online.
Also, I found the Snow Leopard verison (5.4.2) of the Airport Setup Utility far superior to Lion's Airport Utility (6.x) in terms of advanced setup.
Setup is a 3 flloor house where the 3 wired network locations have wireless overlap. The problem was that the access points would not hand off the wireless signal because the channels for each airport/TC were automatically set to the same channel. In non-apple setups, this is how you force a wireless client to switch access points (since the wireless software on your client/mac/windows can detect which access point is stronger and moves to the alternate channel.
Using apple's "Extend this wireless network" option removes any ability to manually configure wireless channels. I am writing this from memory, so feel free to ask questions and I will track this topic:
Procedure
Setup time capsule as your base station. Do all the setup for your wireless and guest networks. Manually configure the network and change the wireless channel to a specific channel for a/b/g networks (e.g., 3) and n networks (e.g, 167).
Plug your first airport extreme/access point into your wired network. Do not plug it into the "internet" ethernet plug, use one of the 3 ethernet switch locations
Use the airport utility to first configure it to "extend" your wired network.
Then, go in and reconfigure it manually in the airport utility. Choose the option to setup a "new network" and name the network the same as the TC wireless network name, security, etc.
Change the channel from "auto" to a different channel than the TC (e.g., 6 and 137).
Now go to the top tab and click on the "internet" icon
Go to the DHCP tab and change it to "bridge mode." This will tell the AE to not give out IP addresses (the TC will do this for you). If you get an error that the IP ranges conflict, you have not done this
Note that if you have a guest network setup, you will need to set this up on the AE as well.
Now test your airport setup. Take your client (macbook, iOS device) and connect to your network. Move to a spot near the TC and pull up a web page. Keep an eye on the signal strength and beginv moving toward the AE. Refresh the page as you move around. You should at some point see the signal strength increase. Refresh your page again. You should be now connected to to the AE. I have found that Macbooks do a better job than iOS devices because you get an extra signal bar to measure strength, and they have larger antennas which allows you to better measure problems with handoff
Another test you can do is to start backing up on your TC and then test the move. The handoff will truly show you that the TC is handling the process but the AE is relaying to the TC for backup.
If you need to setup another AE, simply follow setups 3-10.
I hope this helps others. I've done this setup 100 times on Linksys devices and although they are cumbersome, they at least allow me to do this setup much more quickly and easily than the apple products.

Printer and AirPort Extreme Base Station with Gigabit Ethernet

Hello!
I own a macbook, one windows xp pc, and two windows vista notebooks. I bought a airport extreme base station. I set it up with my macbook at first and I do a print and it works. I do the same with the others. I install the printers drives to all notebooks. Then tried to print and only one of them worked. They all have bonjour download for windows. So i restarted all the pc's and mac and tried to print and never prints. On the pc's i get a error message. On the mac i get an its busy and never prints. All of them connect to the internet, but no printing. I have the printer connected to the base station. I did two prints and then I couldnt print after that. Internet works. Please i need some help to fix this. Thanks in advance

Hi
Maybe you already have fixed your printing problem. I'm no expert but I sometimes have had printing problems and I feel for you. However, first of all. What sort of printer do you have? It sounds to me that one of the pc printing documents got stuck somewhere on its way to the printer and now it is taking up space on the network (figuratively speaking ofcourse). I can recall something happening to my network/printer some years ago. Unfortunately I can not remember what I did to fix the problem but if I were you I would do the following: First I would disconnect the pc from the network and then try to reset the printer clearing its print memory. Then I would try to get the mac to print again. If succesfull I would take the mac off the network and connect one of the pc's and get that to print. If I succeded I would repeat the procedure with the other pc's. If I wasn't succesfull I would clear the memory again and then try with one of the other pc's. But I would only try one computer at the time to try to isolate the problem. Maybe you have already tried this and since pc's are a mystery to me I dont't know how to help you in that department. However using bonjour on the pc's I would not expect to have problems (though I use Windowc XP print menu on my vertual pc - works fine).
Hope that you will solve your problem soon.
Berit

Web Sharing with Leopard 10.5.2 and Airport Extreme Base Station HELP!!!

Ok...I want to set up web sharing on my computer but so far my attempts have failed.
I have an intel iMac with Leopard 10.5.2 installed and I have the latest Airport extreme base station (With draft n).
I turn on web sharing, and of course it works locally but not when trying to be accessed over the internet.
Now I realize that by default my routers address wont let anyone connect to my computer over the internet.
My router has an ip of 10.0.1.1, and I assigned my computer a static ip address of 10.0.1.200.
Now in the network preferences pane and the airport category, i set my computers IP (the 10.0.1.200), I put the gateway as 255.255.255.0, the router as 10.0.1.1 and the DNS as 10.0.1.1
Now going over to the airport utility I added a new entry in the port mapping section, with port 80 (both public and private) and the IP of my machine, 10.0.1.200.
Now in theory this should work but NOOOOO.
Does anyone have the same setup? a wireless network with the new airport extreme base station and has successfully configured Web Sharing?
Thanks in advance.
Felipe

Well here is an update.
I saw an entry in apple support that said I had to change some setting in the apache folder /etc/apache2 in order to avoid getting the 403 forbidden error. I tried this and it did not work, i checked my user configuration file as well and the path to my home site directory was correct
Anyone here have a similar setup and has it working? It shouldnt be too hard to set up web sharing through a router. It has to be possible or else a lot of people would not buy a router because of this.
thanks in advance to anyone kind enough to help
Bye.

Please help me connect eMac, cable modem, and Airport Extreme Base Station

I connected Ethernet cord from cable modem to Airport Extreme Base Station and then another Ethernet cord from Airport Extreme Base Station to eMac, but I could not get internet access on my eMac that way. I'm only getting internet access by directly connecting eMac to cable modem. Can someone please help me with a step by step explanation of how to set these 3 machines up so that I can have internet access on both my eMac and, wirelessly, on my new MacBook. Thank you very much in advance.
eMac & MacBook Mac OS X (10.3)
eMac & MacBook Mac OS X (10.3)
eMac & MacBook Mac OS X (10.3)

jenngee, Welcome to the discussion area!
Ensure that you power off the cable modem for a minute or so when you switch it to another Ethernet device.
Ensure that you are connecting the WAN port of the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) to the cable modem. The eMac should connect to the LAN port.
The steps for setting this up can be found in the "Designing AirPort Networks" (direct PDF link) document. Look through that document and try to get it setup. Then return here if you have more questions. Don't forget to post what you tried and the issues you encountered.

Setting up airport extreme card and airport extreme base station

I have an ibook G4 about 3 years old with osx10.4.10 recently installed. I have recently bought an airport extreme card and have also bought an airport extreme base station.
There seems to be a problem with the set up of the card. It does not seem to find any wireless networks at all, including the base station. The base station seems to be working as I went through setting this up with Apple phone support and we managed to do it by connecting the laptop to the base station with an ethernet cable.
I think the problem is with the card. I think I need to reinstall and set up the card again from scratch, but can't figure out how to do this -aiport utility and airport setup assistant don't seem to help here as they take you straight to the stage of setting up a base station. I seem to remember when I originally installed the card for the very first time (before attempting to set up the base station) that it did find other wireless networks, so I don't think there is a physical problem with the card.
Any suggestions on getting the card working appreciated.
Many thanks

Hello bblairlondon. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
First, verify if OS X "recognizes" the card, by using the System Profiler utility. Select the AirPort Card option under Network in the column on the left. The "Wireless Card Type" should be "AirPort Extreme (nxnnnn, nxnnnn)."
If no card appears, I suggest that you double-check your AirPort Extreme Card installation by using the following Apple Tech article: iBook G4: CIP Instructions
If the card does appear, then try the following ...
Reset the PRAM
o Shut down the computer.
o Turn on the computer.
o Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
o Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
o Release the keys.
(ref: Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAM)

New Mac and Airport Extreme Base Station User - Setup question

Good Morning,
I just received my new MacBook Pro yesterday along with the Airport Extreme Base Station. I was tying to setup the airport extreme but have had no luck. I want to make sure I'm connecting things correctly - make sure I'm not doing something stupid.
I have a cable modem and I previously had a Netgear router. The connection from the cable modem that had previously been connected to my Netgear router - I disconnected it and connected it to the Airport extreme base station instead. And then I plugged it in. Is that all the connecting that I need to do? I get the flashing amber light.
Now I did read a few other threads and it sounds like I may need to install the Airport Utility that came with the base station. So I'll try that when I get home tonight. But I would appreciate any other suggestions - especially whether or not I've connected the airport extreme correctly to my cable modem.
Thanks, Susan
MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4)

I want to make sure I'm connecting things correctly
The network configuration should look something like the following:
Cable modem > (Ethernet cable) > [WAN port] AEBSn > (wireless) > MacBook Pro
I have a cable modem and I previously had a Netgear router. The connection from the cable modem that had previously been connected to my Netgear router - I disconnected it and connected it to the Airport extreme base station instead. And then I plugged it in. Is that all the connecting that I need to do? I get the flashing amber light.
Since you changed your network configuration, you should perform a complete power recycle of your network components to allow enough time for them to "synchronize."
Modem/Router Power ReCycling
- Power-off the Cable modem, AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), & computer(s). (Wait at least 30 minutes. If possible, leave the modem off overnight.)
- Power-on the Cable modem; Wait at least 30 minutes.
- Power-on the AEBSn; Wait at least 5 minutes.
- Power-on the computer(s)
Now I did read a few other threads and it sounds like I may need to install the Airport Utility that came with the base station.
Yes, you will need this utility to perform the setup and follow-on administration of the AEBSn.

Maxtor Personal Storage 3200 and Airport Extreme Base Station

I recently purchased an external hard drive and the newer Airport Extreme Base Station. I have two computers. 1 Macbook Pro and 1 PC running Windows Vista. I am having trouble downloading files from the HD over the Base Station to my Vista Machine. I can connect the drive directly over USB to my vista machine and the problem disappears. But when downloading files to Vista over the AEBS i get an error about the Path not existing. I then tried it on my Macbook Pro with no difficulties. I then fired up Parallels and installed the software on my Windows XP image and it works fine. My question is has anyone come up with a fix for this interaction between the AEBS and Windows Vista.

You said you are "using the express to extend my range and play tunes using air tunes". How did you manage to set that up, if neither the Airport Admin Utility nor the Airport Setup Assistant won't allow you to configure these two devices?
Two suggestions:
1. try using another Mac or PC
2. look hard to make sure you don't have some sort of third-party firewall software or VPN client software running on the Mac than is unable to configure your Airport devices.

Wireless connection to internet with mac pro tower and airport extreme base station?

Hi, I have an airport extreme base station and a mac pro tower without a airport card. My internet wireless router is a great distance from my computer so I can't connect the base station directly to the router. I've attached the airport extreme base station to the tower via an ethernet cable, the base station seems to be wirelessly connected to the home network but the browser is showing "not connected".
Please help.
Thanks

Shouldn't the Airport base station be able to connect to it wirelessly?
It might be possible, but the Ethernet ports on the AirPort Extreme would not be enabled, even if it did connect to the Thompson' WiFi signal.
As Tesserax notes, among the Apple routers, only the 802.11n versions of the AirPort Express have the capability to "join" a wireless network with the Ethernet port being enabled.

How can I reconfigure an Airport Timecapsule and Airport Extreme Base Station to extend a new Time Capsule 3TB network.

Previously they were configured to be part of a network attached to a cable modem. Now I have a DSL modem. I can get the 3TB Time Capsule tower to be recognized by my AirPort Utility but cannot get the older 2TB Time Capsule and Extreme Base Station to be recognised as wifi extensions of the 3TB Wi-Fi Base Station. This latter base station is set up in Bridge mode and the wifi is switched off on the DSL Modem. I am trying to recreate a home network (I have created a newly named one) and use the Apple products as the wifi routers, leaving the fibre optic-supplied DSL modem to interface with the internet.
I would have thought that I should set-up the 3TB Time Capsule Base Station in DHCP network mode, but trying to do so gives me error messages and renders the network inoperative. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the AirPort utility to recognise the two other devices (Base Stations) as extensions of the main one? I have tried with RJ45 cabel connections to no avail.

First, it would be wise to update your computer to OS X Mavericks. It's just a free update, but it really helps your computer.
Once you've done that, on to the fix.
In Airport Utility, select the old router and click "edit". Click the Wireless tab. Select Off. Click Update, and wait. During the update, you should use your phone to read this, as you may have no wireless for a time.
Once the update is done, click the new Time Capsule and click "edit". Select the wireless tab, and change the Network Mode to "Create a Wireless Network". Choose your name, security and password. Click Update. Once the new Time Capsule is plugged in and wired, you should be able to connect to your network from your laptop.
Back on the old Time Capsule, go to the Wireless Tab and select, "Extend a Wireless Network". Select your network, and click update.
On the Airport Extreme, do the same as the old Time Capsule.
You should be done! Now, you can move your old Time Capsule somewhere else as use it as an extention of your network. And the same with the Airport Extreme. Enjoy your 5TB of network storage!

Time Machine and AirPort extreme and 10.6.6 update

Two issues. One, I have an AirPort extreme in my basement with a IOmega drive connected to one of the ethernet ports. I use Time Machine to back up my iMac (located on the main floor) wirelessly to the drive. I just read you should not use the connections on an AirPort for backups.
Two, I discovered this because, while trying to update to 10.6.6 the computer would not finish the update. After 18 hours of trying to write the files I gave up and restarted the machine. Ran Disk utility and it's telling me the internal drive is corrupt and needs to be repaired. (Invalid volume count) I tried Tech Tool and it could not repair it. I'm afraid I may have to erase the disk, but before I do this I wanted to make sure my Time Machine is going to be able to restore my drive, which brings me back to issue #1.

If you didn't repeat running Repair with Disk Utility until you got a clean bill of health it is possible that your disk may still not be in good shape. Sometimes it takes multiple passes to get the job done.
You are skating on very thin ice trying to update your system that resides on a disk that has had recent directory errors without having even one known reliable backup. At this point you are down to zero known reliable copies of your data if the 10.6.6 update isn't successful.
If the 10.6.6 backup doesn't work boot from your Leopard install disk and run Repair until Disk Utility reports no errors. Then I would very strongly encourage you to restore your Time Machine backups to an external drive or make a bootable clone of your internal drive before you try to upgrade. Restoring Time Machine backups is the only way to verify that they are good. External drives aren't that expensive these days, particularly in comparison to risking losing your data.
If the 10.6.6 update doesn't work download the Mac OS X v10.6.6 Update Combo and use it to update.
Only after you have a working system should you erase your Time Machine backups and start over using an Apple supported method. Many people, including me, keep a Time Machine backup on one drive and a bootable clone on another. Carbon Copy Cloner and Super Duper! are both excellent cloning software products. CCC is donationware and Super Duper! has free and paid versions.
No one knows for sure why Apple does not support backing up to a NAS. It was a feature of the Leopard beta but was pulled before release. From what we have seen posted in this forum I assume it wasn't a particularly easy fix to get it working reliably.

Intermittent connection between iBook and Airport Extreme Base Station

I have a friend with an iBook set up with the Airport Extreme system, they also have a Denon stereo that it is playing through. However, when the music is playing, it keeps cutting out every 5-10 seconds and is intermittent. On other occasions, when the router & base station is left switched on, it plays fine. Does anyone have a reason for this intermittent playing, and a possible solution? Many thanks,

Check out this Apple article to see if it will help.

Modem adsl2+ and airport extreme base station

hi guy, i have a problem.
i must buy a modem adsl2+ that work with this protocol (request by my provider):
PPPoA (with username and password)
VC mux
dhcp enabled
i buy yesterday an DL320b By d-link, but is rubbish!
don't work with my airport base station, work only in mode bridge, with maximum ONE computer on internet at once.
my home network is this:
my mac (wi-fi)
a ps3 sony (ethernet)
and other pc with W7 (wi.fi)
this configuration work in my home, airport base and this 3 elements workly good.
i need to use my airport without bridging, to connect my ps3 to my mac.
serching online i see a netgear dm111p, but can broke very frequently.
do you know a modem or modem/router that work with this configuration?
ps: sorry, but i'm italian, and my english isn't very well..

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Time Capsule versus Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBSn)

Hi,
Comparing the two, Time Capsule performance is considerably slower than AEBSn. Both are running airport firmware 7.3.1, the recent update. Web browsing is very noticeably slower on Time Capsule sharing a public IP address (aka DHCP router mode), although Apple Discussions can sometimes take several seconds to load, TC appears to be twice as slow doing it. Wireless performance is a lot closer than Gigabit Ethernet where the difference in constant throughput is immense. These are the results of my Finder copies (13.25GB) between devices.
1TB Time Capsule Results:
MacPro -> Gigabit Ethernet CAT 6 -> TC HD = 120Mbps
MacPro -> TC Gigabit Ethernet -> Macbook Pro = 160Mbps
MacPro -> TC 802.11n 2.4Ghz -> TC HD = 60-90Mbps, spurts upto 115Mbps
MacPro -> TC 802.11n 2.4Ghz -> Macbook Pro = 90Mbps
Iomega USB Disk -> USB2 -> TC HD = bounces between 2 and 49Mbps with spurts upto 70Mbps
HTTP -> Apple Discussions = TTL 15s
AEBSn Comparison:
MacPro -> Gigabit Ethernet CAT 6 -> Macbook Pro = 450Mbps
MacPro -> AEBSn Gigabit Ethernet -> Macbook Pro = 260-315Mbps
MacPro -> AEBSn 802.11n 2.4Ghz -> Macbook Pro = 90-105Mbps
MacPro -> AEBSn Gigabit Ethernet -> Iomega USB Disk = 90-115Mbps
HTTP -> Apple Discussions = TTL 7s

Nonetheless, that is what you must do if you want the AirPort Extreme to be able to connect to the "new" Time Capsule wireless network.
If you do find another way to just "change the password" on the AirPort Extreme without resetting the device, please let us know.
Otherwise, you can change the password on the Time Capsule back to the original word if you do not want to reconfigure the Extreme.
Next time you do this, change the password on the AirPort Extreme first. Then, change the password on the Time Capsule. That way, the Extreme will be able to connect when you change the password on the Time Capsule.

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