Time Machine and AirPort Updates v1.0 & ...

I have a question regards Time Machine and AirPort Updates v1.0 & AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express Base Station with 802.11n* Firmware 7.3.1
I have a new (Feb 2008) Mac pro with the airport card internally installed. Do these updates apply to my card & should I install them?
Thanks,
Harris

if it shows up in software update, it can be installed. If you are not using Time Machine on a disk connected to the Airport, you can probably skip it, but these updates USUALLY work.
There is always somebody that comes in and cries that "Update YYY Broke My Computer" but generally they go pretty smoothly
- gws

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I'm trying to install Time Machine and Airport Update V 1.0 but installer

keeps returning error message: You cannot install Time Machine and AirPort Updates on this volume. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 or newer.
I am in fact running 10.5.6. Would the fact that this update was dated in March of 2008 have anything to do with it? I think it's the latest update for TM and Airport.
Any suggestions?

Kappy, how'd you get so smart. On further investigation I discovered that I had already downloaded and installed that update. I will follow your advice in the future, not risking showing off as a fool.

When I try to install Time Machine update I get this message: You cannot install Time Machine and AirPort Updates on this volume. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 or newer. I have OS X 10.5.8.

When I try to install Time Machine update I get this message: “You cannot install Time Machine and AirPort Updates on this volume. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 or newer.” I have OS X 10.5.8.

It's bundled with 10.5.3 and newer and can't be installed separately on those OSes.
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Time Machine and AirPort Updates v1.0 - killed my hard drive

I just "updated" my software, installing the Time Machine and AirPort Updates v 1.0
and I instantly lost my Time Machine hard drive, my MBP now says it is not recognizable and will likely have to be formatted. Is this happening to other people? Please be careful installing this update!

From Maxtor's website:
Cannot Erase External Disk Drive Errors in Mac OS X (10.5) - Leopard
Description
When trying to Erase an external drive in Mac OS X (10.5) Leopard, I get the error, Cannot Erase as seen in this video. How can I resolve this problem?
Answer
*Leopard (Mac OS X - 10.5) seems to be having problems reformatting external drives. This seems to be a common issue on Leopard that is seen on most brands of drives.*
Note: This is not a problem with the External Drive. Rather, it is an issue with the Disk Utility found with Leopard.
Suggestions - If reformatting the drive in Disk Utility fails, there are two options:
Note: If you got to the point where you attempted to use disk Utility to Erase the external drive and it, failed, you may have to take the drive back to a Windows System to repartition and reformat. Click here to launch a video showing how to prepare an external drive using Windows Vista.
Reformat the drive on an older version of Mac OS X.
Boot off of the MacOS 10.4 DVD, access its Utilities Menu and prepare the external drive using Disk Utility
Backup any data first, take the external drive to another Mac, launch Disk Utility and reformat the drive as Mac OS Extended or Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
If another version of Mac OS X is not available:
Open Finder > Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility
Select the external drive and click on the Partition tab
Click on the Current Volume Scheme drop-down menu and divide the drive into 2 (or more) partitions
Click Options. From the Partition Schemes provided, click on the GUID Partition Table radio button. Click OK.
Click Apply. The Partition Disk screen opens.
Click Partition. At this point, the volume dismounts from the desktop and the drive is partitioned and formatted into multiple drives with GUID Partition Table scheme.
Note: When Volumes are created, Time Machine may open asking if you would like to use the volume for backups. Click Cancel to proceed.
When finished, select the Disk Utility from the Apple Menu and choose Quit Disk Utility (recommended)
Relaunch the Disk Utility, select the external drive
and click on the Partition tab
Click on the Current Volume Scheme drop-down menu and select One (1) partition.
Click Options. From the Partition Schemes provided, click on the Apple Partition Map radio button. Click OK. Select other options as desired (e.g., Volume Name, Install Mac OS 9 Drivers, etc.).
Click Apply. The Partition Disk screen opens.
Click Partition. At this point, the volume dismounts from the desktop and the drive is partitioned and formatted into multiple drives with Apple Partition Map scheme.
Note: When Volumes are created, Time Machine may open asking if you would like to use the volume for backups. Click Cancel to proceed.
When finished, select the Disk Utility from the Apple Menu and choose Quit Disk Utility (recommended)

Recent Time Machine and Airport Leopard update causes Kernel panic

I had 15 iMac's in a classroom that were all updated to the new Leopard update for Time Machine and Airport. When they restarted, they all gave a kernel panic error. Successive restarts continue with the screen starting with the kernel panic error message and asking for a shutdown.
I am extremely sure that it had to be those updates because they were all fine before that. I doubt 30 pieces of RAM could have gone kaput all at once. Since we have a dual boot setup, if I press the alt key when I restart, I can boot into the Windows side without any problems.
If somebody has had a similar problem and found a way to do something about the kernel error, please let me know. Thanks in advance. I did the usual zapping RAM and stuff. It didn't help.

More information - from the crash report:
Tue Mar 25 11:23:14 2008
panic(cpu 6 caller 0x001A8C8A): Kernel trap at 0x004095b9, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000018, CR3: 0x00d7b000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x0bb2c200, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x0c0915a0
CR2: 0x00000018, EBP: 0x82ffbcc8, ESI: 0x0c09de00, EDI: 0x0c09bfa0
EFL: 0x00010206, EIP: 0x004095b9, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00000010
Error code: 0x00000000
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x82ffbad8 : 0x12b0f7 (0x4581f4 0x82ffbb0c 0x133230 0x0)
0x82ffbb28 : 0x1a8c8a (0x461720 0x4095b9 0xe 0x460ed0)
0x82ffbc08 : 0x19ece5 (0x82ffbc20 0x1 0x82ffbcc8 0x4095b9)
0x82ffbc18 : 0x4095b9 (0xe 0x10048 0xbbb0010 0x3e0010)
0x82ffbcc8 : 0x40960c (0xc09de00 0xbbdf900 0x1 0xc09de00)
0x82ffbce8 : 0x40d648 (0xc09de00 0xc09dd00 0x0 0x3ea76c)
0x82ffbd38 : 0x40d7fb (0xc09dd00 0x4 0x0 0xb6dde00)
0x82ffbd58 : 0x84047d77 (0xc09dd00 0xc09dd00 0xbda3760 0x11a1d4)
0x82ffbdc8 : 0x8404bf21 (0xbb2c200 0x82ffbdfc 0x82ffbdf8 0xbb2c200)
0x82ffbe08 : 0x8404c236 (0xbb2c200 0x0 0x0 0xbb2c200)
0x82ffbe28 : 0x8404c2ba (0xbb2c200 0x840555a0 0x0 0x0)
0x82ffbe48 : 0x40fd82 (0xbb2c200 0xbbdf900 0x1 0x3ea740)
0x82ffbea8 : 0x411c17 (0xbbdf900 0xbb2c200 0xbbead40 0xbb46300)
0x82ffbf28 : 0x41147b (0xbbdf900 0xbbb66c0 0x0 0xffffffff)
0x82ffbf78 : 0x4100f7 (0xbbdf900 0x0 0x82ffbfac 0x1)
0x82ffbfc8 : 0x19eadc (0xbbddb40 0x0 0x1a20b5 0xb9445d0)
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.faronics.driver.DFXDriver(4.0.1f23)@0x84046000->0x8405afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(3.0.8)@0x83483000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5.2)@0x8375f000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
9C7010
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.2: Tue Mar 4 21:17:34 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.4.31~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacPro2,1 (Mac-F4208DA9)

Has anyone had had success with Time Machine and Airport Express 6th gen?

For the last six months I have attempted to use the Time Machine product to provide first level backup for my two MacBook Airs and iMac. Tryed a number of powered USB drives, tryed all of the current 10.8, 10.9 OSX software. The Time Machine product seems to work for about a month to six weeks and then fails with message about the file integrity or access problems. In all cases I can acess files on the drive and the only application that struugles with the AE usb drive is Time Machine.
You would think that if it works for a month it should work for a year?
I have purchased Carbon Copy Cloner and it seems to function without a problem and I think that I am probably better off with a once a day clone than a Time Machine with data integrity problems.
Has anyone had long term success with Time Machine and AE sixth gen?

You are connecting a USB hard disk to the new 802.11ac AirPort Extreme, not an Express, correct? If so, it works fine with both bus powered and self-powered drive enclosures, and I have no immediate explanation for what's going on.
You would think that if it works for a month it should work for a year?
Yes, besides the passage of time the only thing that is changing is the amount of available space on the backup volume, which could be a factor. Are you using separate drives for each Mac, or are they all being backed up to the same drive? If it's only one drive, is it partitioned or are they all sharing a single partition?
Are you sharing backup volumes with other, non-Time Machine files? That shouldn't cause the problem, but it's not a good idea.
What errors are being logged in system.log? Filter for backupd to find all Time-Machine related entries.

Time Machine and Airport Express

Got Time Machine to work with a Mini and my AEBS after the 7.3.1 upgrade. Did the full initial backup with no problem. However, I then had my Macbook backing up to the same AEBS and USB drive for several hours and the Mini's Time Machine tried and failed to do an incremental backup. Now I get a "disk is read only" error when I tried do perform a Time Machine backup and the error message recommends reformatting the drive. I'm now verifying the disk with Disk Utility.
1. Has anyone been able to have two Macs share an AEBS drive for Time machine without conflicts?
2. I initially set up each Mac on a separate partition on the USB drive. Is that recommended or should they share a partition?

In theory it should work, but I don't think you need to partition the drive as TM should manage each drive's backup separately.
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Mac OS X 10.5- Time Machine backups are not visible
OS X 10.5- Time Machine stops backing up to external disk
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Time Machine and AirPort extreme and 10.6.6 update

Two issues. One, I have an AirPort extreme in my basement with a IOmega drive connected to one of the ethernet ports. I use Time Machine to back up my iMac (located on the main floor) wirelessly to the drive. I just read you should not use the connections on an AirPort for backups.
Two, I discovered this because, while trying to update to 10.6.6 the computer would not finish the update. After 18 hours of trying to write the files I gave up and restarted the machine. Ran Disk utility and it's telling me the internal drive is corrupt and needs to be repaired. (Invalid volume count) I tried Tech Tool and it could not repair it. I'm afraid I may have to erase the disk, but before I do this I wanted to make sure my Time Machine is going to be able to restore my drive, which brings me back to issue #1.

If you didn't repeat running Repair with Disk Utility until you got a clean bill of health it is possible that your disk may still not be in good shape. Sometimes it takes multiple passes to get the job done.
You are skating on very thin ice trying to update your system that resides on a disk that has had recent directory errors without having even one known reliable backup. At this point you are down to zero known reliable copies of your data if the 10.6.6 update isn't successful.
If the 10.6.6 backup doesn't work boot from your Leopard install disk and run Repair until Disk Utility reports no errors. Then I would very strongly encourage you to restore your Time Machine backups to an external drive or make a bootable clone of your internal drive before you try to upgrade. Restoring Time Machine backups is the only way to verify that they are good. External drives aren't that expensive these days, particularly in comparison to risking losing your data.
If the 10.6.6 update doesn't work download the Mac OS X v10.6.6 Update Combo and use it to update.
Only after you have a working system should you erase your Time Machine backups and start over using an Apple supported method. Many people, including me, keep a Time Machine backup on one drive and a bootable clone on another. Carbon Copy Cloner and Super Duper! are both excellent cloning software products. CCC is donationware and Super Duper! has free and paid versions.
No one knows for sure why Apple does not support backing up to a NAS. It was a feature of the Leopard beta but was pulled before release. From what we have seen posted in this forum I assume it wasn't a particularly easy fix to get it working reliably.

How do I connect both iMac (2011) hard drives to backup with Time Machine and Airport Time capsule?

Hi - my iMac has 2 hard drives, 250 Gb solid state and a 2 Tb drive. I'm backing up using time Machine to an Airport time Capsule but only the 250 Gb drive comes up in hte list? All my photos are on the 2 Tb drive (about 120GB worth) and I want a back up for these. I'm running under OS X 10.9.1 Maverick
Any help would be greatly appreaciated!

Ok.. I am surprised..
What did you format the 2TB drive.. I find it hard to imagine you formatted an internal drive anything but Mac OS extended journaled (HFS+) .. but you could have.
Time Machine can only backup HFS+ format drives.
Of course this Mavericks.. and in Mavericks the bugs rein supreme in Time Machine.
Reset TM setup.. See A4 here. http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
Make sure the 2TB drive is mounted when you redo the TM setup.
To be honest.. I would also buy CCC and do a full clone of the drive..
TM is great for the occasional file loss.. but it is lousy to restore a drive. CCC at the moment is $40 or so and IMHO money well spent.
http://www.bombich.com/
I use it but just to say I have no connection to them..

Time Machine and Airport HELP!!

Please help me...
I am trying to setup my Airport Extreme and USB connected external 1TB hard drive to be my Time Machine backup drive.
Its not working.
I tried setting it up, got it to mount just fine over the network, and it starts to backup just fine, and then it stops with an error message.
So, I tried to connect the hard drive directly to my computer and back it up directly, and that didn't work either.
What am I doing wrong?

Jolly Giant wrote:
in your initial post you said
adammabry wrote:
I tried setting it up, got it to mount just fine over the network, and it starts to backup just fine, and then it stops with an error message.
what's that error message ?
download and install the Time Machine Buddy. switch to dashboard and copy & paste the report in your next post.
Jolly Giant wrote:
in your initial post you said
adammabry wrote:
I tried setting it up, got it to mount just fine over the network, and it starts to backup just fine, and then it stops with an error message.
what's that error message ?
download and install the Time Machine Buddy. switch to dashboard and copy & paste the report in your next post.
Jolly Giant wrote:
in your initial post you said
adammabry wrote:
I tried setting it up, got it to mount just fine over the network, and it starts to backup just fine, and then it stops with an error message.
what's that error message ?
download and install the Time Machine Buddy. switch to dashboard and copy & paste the report in your next post.
Just tried to back up using a USB connection. Here was the message...
Starting standard backup
Backing up to: /Volumes/Family/Backups.backupdb
Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Adam Mabrys Disk
No pre-backup thinning needed: 105.01 GB requested (including padding), 915.00 GB available
Error: (-36) SrcErr:YES Copying /Library/Application Support/LiveType/LiveFonts/Pro Series/Bar.ltlf/data to (null)
Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Library/Application Support/LiveType/LiveFonts/Pro Series/Bar.ltlf/data to /Volumes/Family/Backups.backupdb/Adam Mabry’s MacBook Pro 15" (2)/2009-12-11-002355.inProgress/A2D60FFD-B551-4B1C-B28B-50883FE1B69F/Adam Mabrys Disk/Library/Application Support/LiveType/LiveFonts/Pro Series/Bar.ltlf
Stopping backup.
Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Library/Application Support/LiveType/LiveFonts/Pro Series/Bar.ltlf/data to /Volumes/Family/Backups.backupdb/Adam Mabry’s MacBook Pro 15" (2)/2009-12-11-002355.inProgress/A2D60FFD-B551-4B1C-B28B-50883FE1B69F/Adam Mabrys Disk/Library/Application Support/LiveType/LiveFonts/Pro Series/Bar.ltlf
Copied 90 files (382.1 MB) from volume Adam Mabrys Disk.
Copy stage failed with error:11
Backup failed with error: 11

Time Machine and Airport Extreme Base Station

Is using TM with an AEBS disk supported by Apple? I know a lot of people got it to work (and a lot of people aren't able to yet) but I've heard no word from Apple on this subject. There's absolutely no mention of it on their website and one page still says that TM backups with AEBS are not supported.
If the recent updates were meant to provide this functionality why is Apple so quiet on this topic? I looked on the Apple news page and they managed to have info on camera raw updates there but about TM/AEBS, nothing but crickets...
Message was edited by: Idris33

I fail to see your concern...
Take a look at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306681 and the verbage
Changing your backup location
Click Choose Backup Disk, then select the disk to save backups to.
Click Change Disk, and from the listing in the resulting dialog select a new disk to use for backups, > and click Use for Backup to save the new location."
Does this not tell you that the AirDisk is supported as it will show up as a selectable TM backup disk.
Prior to the update AirDisks did not show up in the listing.
I do agree that AirDisks are not mentioned anywhere in this document. However, it does not exclude them either.
I've successfully used TM to backup to my TC's AirDisk + multiple hourly snapshots without issues and I've successfully restored from it using my DVD Installer disc. As far as I can see the AirDisk is supported and it's working flawlessly.

HT201250 Accession files on Time Machine through Airporter Extreme

Understand there is an incompatibility issue with Time Machine and Airporter Extreme. Also if files were backedu up directly from the MacBook Pro to the external hard drive there's a problem accessing Time Machine if the external hard drive is plugged into Airporter Extreme so that two separate MACs can access Time Machine through the WiFi at the same time. Any info?

If that happened to me, I would use the Recovery Disk bootstrap and do a "Restore from Backup".
Here is how:
Restart your computer, holding the "Command" and "R" keys until you see the Apple logo. This will boot into recovery mode. You can then choose a "Restore from Backup" once you establish your WiFi, etc.

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

I think you mean you are replacing your Airport Extreme with a Time Capsule. Time Machine is software integrated into OS X 10.5 & 10.6 used to automatically backup a system to an external HD. Time Capsule is an Airport Extreme that has a hard disk integrated into it that can be used for storage or as a Time Machine backup drive.
Because you are currently on Tiger 10.4.x you can backup to a external HD using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner. Having a backup is very wise before doing any major system update. After you have created the backup and have successfully upgraded to Snow Leopard you can still use the external HD for many things. The strategy I'd recommend is to use the new Time Capsule as your Time Machine backup and then use the external HD as backup using SuperDuper or CCC. Redundant backups is wise because backups can (and do) fail too! In addition both SD and CCC are bootable clones, this is useful in that if your internal HD crashes you can boot from a cloned drive and continue working until the internal HD is replaced.
Below are some links to some articles from MacWorld, I would recommend reading them where you find a common theme, redundant backups. Backup Plan I, Backup Plan II & Backup Plan III.
Roger

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how do i use my 3TB airport time capsule as both time machine and hard drive? currently on Yosemite 10.10.1.....Many Thanks.

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Time Machine and Updating.....Please advise...

I need to do 2 updates.......I need to upgrade my external hard drive for Time Machine, and I need to upgrade to Mountain Lion, from Snow Leopard ---
I have a 750GB hard drive on my MBP, I'll upgrade my external hard drive for backups to a 1TB .... Couple of questions... since I need to upgrade OS as well, , should I upgrade OS first, then install my new HDD for Time Machine and do full backup? OR the opposite, , do a full backup w/ new HDD then upgrade to Mountain LIon??
Also, , since I'll have extra room , , should I handle that new drive any particular way.....?? i.e. partitioning, etc??
Advice appreciated.......
Thanks

I think you are worrying too much about little details.
How much of the existing 750GB is used? Is that internal or the external drive?
As long as you have a full backup before you start you should be fine.. but I would download and install superduper.. the free version can do a disk image.. that is very useful when things go wrong.. as well as your time machine backups.
Then I would also strongly recommend clean install of Mountain Lion.. just google for the method.. it is not hard.. the result is much better than trying to do upgrade installs.
Once you have upgraded / new install.. then do a backup.. to whatever disk has enough space.. but new.. not over the old backup. You can partition the external drive if you need to.. so you can have different backups.

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