Time Machine and Shares

Hello, I have a 2 computer, a G5 (my personal mac) and a iMac (family computer) setup over a gigabit lan. I have a 1.5TB hard drive attached to my G5 via FW800. I would like to use this as the time machine backup disk. The G5 is already set up to use it since it's physically attached.
How I have been accomplishing this on the imac is mount the drive via AFP and select it as the backup disk through the time machine system preferences window. Since I store other data, backup mostly, on this 1.5TB drive my current solution is not a very secure one. The drive mounts to the desktop any anyone on the iMac can brows it's contents unrestricted. I've unchecked (show these items on the Desktop:) "connected servers" in the Finder Preferences windows to obscure this share.
I tried creating a shared folder on this drive for the iMac to use. But I can't select the share in the TM preference window. I assume this is because if the invisible TM files in the root of the drive. I've been testing what works and what does not, Drives seem to work fine, shared folders within the same drives do not. shared disk images (iDisk) does work.
So my question is how do I securely use my 1.5TB drive for TimeMachine on iMac?
Thank you!

See #22 in the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.
I've not tried this in the type of configuration you have, but I think you want separate partitions for each Mac's backups, and a third one for the "other" data. Then use step (b) in the yellow box to grant access only to the desired user(s) for each partition.

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HT201250 How do you add an external Hard drive to time machine and share on network?

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I have an network Lacie drive (1GB) that I just connected to my local network. I started the time machine, and after a few minutes I get this error message:
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akapetchy wrote:
Hi V.K.-
I have a 2TB Lacie 2Big NAS drive, hooked to a Linksys router, that I thought (based on this forum) would not work with Time Machine. Last night, I found in the "share" properties, a box to check to make it the "share" compatible with Time Machine. I checked the box and Time Machine recognized the NAS drive "share" and was able to use it with no issues (so far) - I have my mac tied to the router with an ethernet cable. Lacie explicitly says on its product info page that this drive is "compatible with Time Machine" and it appears it is...
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now, all that said, there are a few 3rd party NAS devices that came out relatively recently (that includes your Lacie NAS) that claim to support TM backups. they have no blessings from apple to say such things but TM does seem to work and work quite well with such devices. for example, I don't think I've heard any complaints about problems with your Lacie NAS model as a TM drive.
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HT201250 Can I partition my external hard drive and use one partion for time machine and the other one for data that i may want to use in different computers?

I have this doubt. I've just bought an external drive, especifically a Seagate GoFlex Desk 3 tb.
I want to know if it is recomendable to make a partion exclusively for time machine and let another one so I can put there music, photos, videos, etc that I should need to use or copy to another computer.
May half and half, 1.5 tb for time machine and 1.5 tb for data.
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If you really only want backups of the current contents, don't use Time Machine.
It's designed to keep copies of things you've changed or deleted for as long as possible. This allows you an excellent chance to recover a previous version of something you changed or deleted in error.
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For alternatives, see Kappy's post on [Basic Backup|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12366915#12366915].

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Everything is included unless you exclude it. How you do that is:
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2. Then click on Options. If you want to exclude something click the + sign and use Finder to locate it and then add it. On your next TM backup that item willl be excluded.

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Sounds like you'll need to access that drive while it is not booted. You need to replace it anyway, so do that, then one way or another (ext enclusure, et), access it and copy files.
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Hallo ,why is it that when I delete a photo ,which is backed up by time machine and western digital external hard drive , that I am able to restore the photo okay but not the titles and descriptions . I have a Macbook 4.1, mac osx 10.5.8 . Iphoto 7.1.5 ,

QUESTION.
Hallo , my question is ;whenever I delete a photo and restore it through Time machine and Western digital external hard drive , I am able to restore the photo but not the titles and descriptions . Western Digital inform me that it isn't their external hard drive problem and suggest that it is an Apple software problem ?
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I hope that someone is able to help in this matter , as i have to restore 12000 photos !
Thanking you in anticipation.
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Hallo Kieth ,
I am not quite ready to restore the full iphoto library , as I have days of work re - imputting titles,descriptions and enhancement . I hope that your suggestion works , as I use my Macbook basically to work with digital photography. Through time , I will need to delete my library to recover more disc space and I would hate to have to spend more time re - imputting titles and descriptions all over again .
Thanks for your interest and advice.
regards - Alan

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Capsule but since I already have a wireless router I need suggestions on
what other
external disks Apple could recommend to use with the Time Machine and
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